On Monday’s episode of Human Events Daily, host Jack Posobiec sat down with Rutgers University Turning Point USA officers Ava Kwan and Megyn Doyle, who say they’re being punished by the school for exposing an Antifa-linked professor known as “Dr. Antifa,” Mark Bray. The interview follows Jack Ciattarelli's rally in Bergen, New Jersey, where Kwan was brought on stage before a crowd of more than 1,000 supporters to share her story.
Posobiec started the discussion by recounting the harassment both students endured. “You guys get doxed. Your mom's cell phone gets doxed, which is horrifying, gets spread around,” he said. “How has the university responded? What is the university doing? Are they trying to reach some kind of agreement? Are they trying to calm things down? What are they doing?”
“Well, unfortunately, Jack, they are doing nothing,” Kwan replied. “The only thing that they're doing is investigating our chapter. And, you know, even worse, they're investigating our chapter behind Megan and I's backs. You know, it’s been in the news, you know, and I spoke about it yesterday at the rally, that they're trying to get Megan and I ousted from our e-board positions at the Turning Point chapter.”
She continued, “They're doing this by emailing our president and stating that, randomly, we’ve become ineligible due to our student statuses. So instead of coming directly to us, having a conversation with us, and even seeing if we’re okay after all this, instead they’re just going behind our backs and trying to oust us from our positions. So it’s been very frustrating and really sad—really sad to see.”
Kwan and Doyle launched a petition earlier this month to remove Rutgers professor Mark Bray, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, citing his public defense of Antifa and history of political activism. Bray, who has pledged proceeds from his book to Antifa-affiliated groups, fled to Spain following backlash.
Kwan said she was compelled to act after seeing how openly Bray promoted “political rhetoric” attacking conservative students. “He was biased towards students who had differing political opinions,” she said. “Antifa was just declared a terrorist organization by the Trump administration... This is the kind of rhetoric that got Charlie killed last month.”
Posobiec said that Bray’s social media posts specifically mentioned TPUSA, himself, and journalist Andy Ngo. “Fox News called him an Antifa financier—which is true, by the way—because he donated half the proceeds of his book to the International Antifa Defense Fund,” Posobiec said. “Which is amazing because Antifa, we’re told, doesn’t exist. But now they also have an international defense fund. I’m not sure how that works.”
Posobiec started the discussion by recounting the harassment both students endured. “You guys get doxed. Your mom's cell phone gets doxed, which is horrifying, gets spread around,” he said. “How has the university responded? What is the university doing? Are they trying to reach some kind of agreement? Are they trying to calm things down? What are they doing?”
“Well, unfortunately, Jack, they are doing nothing,” Kwan replied. “The only thing that they're doing is investigating our chapter. And, you know, even worse, they're investigating our chapter behind Megan and I's backs. You know, it’s been in the news, you know, and I spoke about it yesterday at the rally, that they're trying to get Megan and I ousted from our e-board positions at the Turning Point chapter.”
She continued, “They're doing this by emailing our president and stating that, randomly, we’ve become ineligible due to our student statuses. So instead of coming directly to us, having a conversation with us, and even seeing if we’re okay after all this, instead they’re just going behind our backs and trying to oust us from our positions. So it’s been very frustrating and really sad—really sad to see.”
Kwan and Doyle launched a petition earlier this month to remove Rutgers professor Mark Bray, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, citing his public defense of Antifa and history of political activism. Bray, who has pledged proceeds from his book to Antifa-affiliated groups, fled to Spain following backlash.
Kwan said she was compelled to act after seeing how openly Bray promoted “political rhetoric” attacking conservative students. “He was biased towards students who had differing political opinions,” she said. “Antifa was just declared a terrorist organization by the Trump administration... This is the kind of rhetoric that got Charlie killed last month.”
Posobiec said that Bray’s social media posts specifically mentioned TPUSA, himself, and journalist Andy Ngo. “Fox News called him an Antifa financier—which is true, by the way—because he donated half the proceeds of his book to the International Antifa Defense Fund,” Posobiec said. “Which is amazing because Antifa, we’re told, doesn’t exist. But now they also have an international defense fund. I’m not sure how that works.”
