Human Events Daily host Jack Posobiec welcomed Joshua Lisec onto his program Monday for a discussion on the themes of their co-authored books Unhumans and Bulletproof. The two examined the far-left’s ideological framework, which they describe as “anti-civilization” and inherently opposed to traditional values and ultimately life.
Lisec explained the predictive nature of their work, stating, “The reason why it’s so predictive is that we fundamentally understand what the far left is. We call them the unhumans, we call them the anti-civilization.” He elaborated on the concept of civilization itself, emphasizing its roots in Christianity, the family unit, and law and order. “What is civilization? It is Christianity, it is the family, it’s law and order that keep communities safe, so kids can ride their bicycles before the street lights come on.”
According to Lisec, anti-civilization stands in direct opposition to these principles: “Anti-civilization is everything that opposes what I just described. So when you have someone like Luigi Mangione come along, it’s anti-civilization committing murder on the street, they become a hero.” He drew a historical comparison, pointing to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, which he noted launched on the same day as the first feminist holiday.
At this point, Posobiec interjected with a pointed question: “What was the first country in the history of planet Earth to legalize abortion?”
Lisec responded, “It was the Soviet Union, was it not? Anti-civilization, anti-family, anti-child, anti-baby, anti-all that is good and just and beautiful in this world.”
Expanding on their argument, Lisec explained how figures like Luigi Mangione—charged with the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson—are celebrated by what he describes as “unhumanity.” He continued, “So you have a stone-cold killer like Luigi Mangione allegedly is, and he becomes a hero for the people of unhumanity.”
Lisec linked this ideological battle to broader societal issues, including the destruction of property and political persecution. “Destroying our stuff, Teslas, taking our rights, the J6 political prisoners, and then taking our lives, and that is the celebration of the murder of the United Healthcare CEO.”
Watch the full episode below.
Lisec explained the predictive nature of their work, stating, “The reason why it’s so predictive is that we fundamentally understand what the far left is. We call them the unhumans, we call them the anti-civilization.” He elaborated on the concept of civilization itself, emphasizing its roots in Christianity, the family unit, and law and order. “What is civilization? It is Christianity, it is the family, it’s law and order that keep communities safe, so kids can ride their bicycles before the street lights come on.”
According to Lisec, anti-civilization stands in direct opposition to these principles: “Anti-civilization is everything that opposes what I just described. So when you have someone like Luigi Mangione come along, it’s anti-civilization committing murder on the street, they become a hero.” He drew a historical comparison, pointing to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, which he noted launched on the same day as the first feminist holiday.
At this point, Posobiec interjected with a pointed question: “What was the first country in the history of planet Earth to legalize abortion?”
Lisec responded, “It was the Soviet Union, was it not? Anti-civilization, anti-family, anti-child, anti-baby, anti-all that is good and just and beautiful in this world.”
Expanding on their argument, Lisec explained how figures like Luigi Mangione—charged with the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson—are celebrated by what he describes as “unhumanity.” He continued, “So you have a stone-cold killer like Luigi Mangione allegedly is, and he becomes a hero for the people of unhumanity.”
Lisec linked this ideological battle to broader societal issues, including the destruction of property and political persecution. “Destroying our stuff, Teslas, taking our rights, the J6 political prisoners, and then taking our lives, and that is the celebration of the murder of the United Healthcare CEO.”
Watch the full episode below.
