Speaking to Lisec, his Unhumans co-author, Posobiec pushed back on the idea that anyone can arrive in the United States and automatically become American.
“I like that. It’s a romantic thought,” Posobiec said. “If you’re leading with your heart, you want to say, I wish we lived in a world where that were true.”
He then questioned whether recent political and media figures represented American values. “Does Zohran Mamdami seem like a regular American to you? How about Ilhan Omar? How about Hasan Piker?” Posobiec asked. “No, no. We know that’s not an American. You don’t act like Americans. You don’t have American heritage. You’re not interested in assimilating to this country.”
Posobiec cited alleged fraud tied to resettlement programs in Minnesota as evidence of systemic failure. “Eight billion dollars or nine billion. Half of the 18 billion was scammed by Somalians in Minneapolis,” he said. “When you import people from cultures that don’t have the same values as us, they don’t value honor. They don’t value the golden rule.”
“They will abuse our systems and walk right away to the tune of billions of dollars,” Posobiec added, criticizing Minnesota officials, including Gov. Tim Walz and Attorney General Keith Ellison. “They got a real scandal on their hands up there.”
He argued the Trump administration has the public support to dismantle such programs entirely. “We have the ability right now, the popular support President Trump does, to end every single program for the Somalis in this country.”
Later in the discussion, Posobiec turned to Rasmussen Reports pollster Mark Mitchell, referencing reports that Mitchell had met with President Donald Trump in the Oval Office. “So what was the presentation that you made to the president regarding this issue?” Posobiec asked.
Mitchell said Trump’s approval ratings were not the core problem. “His approval rating is not terrible,” he said. “The problem is Republicans are going to lose. A year from now, the polling is not going to look too good.” Mitchell warned of historical midterm trends reasserting themselves. “The pendulum swings back,” he said. “They need, in my opinion, like a Manhattan Project to get the Republican rotted husk across the finish line in only 315 days.”
Pressed further, Mitchell pointed to deeper pessimism among voters. “Only 27 percent of Americans think today’s children will be better off than their parents,” he said. “That’s horrifying. And that’s way different than 2016.”
“This is a different America,” Mitchell added. “They need to acknowledge how bad the problems are. You’re not going to fix that by November 2026. So lay out a plan and show Americans we’re on the path. The golden age isn’t here yet.”
