“I've read all 19 pages of this whistleblower document,” Posobiec said at the outset. “Now we have this Durham annex that's also been released—highly classified intelligence—showing that there was information held by the intelligence community, members of the US government, that Hillary wanted to engage in this conspiracy to blame everything on some connection between Trump and Russia."
He alleged that US intelligence agencies were aware of the Clinton campaign’s plans and even knew that Russian intelligence had picked up on them. “It is clear that members of the United States government entered into a criminal conspiracy with members of the Hillary campaign, members of which later became officials in the Biden administration like Jake Sullivan or [Victoria] Nuland,” he said.
According to Posobiec, the documents detailed plans to fabricate and promote the Trump-Russia collusion narrative as part of a broader geopolitical goal. “These documents detail plans to demonize Putin and demonize Russia and demonize a fake conspiracy of collusion between the two of them,” he continued. “It also mentions at one point that CrowdStrike had no direct evidence of who hacked the DNC server and yet they were going to go out publicly and demonize Russia anyway.”
He went on to say that the ultimate objective was to instigate a conflict with Russia. “The war was originally supposed to take place during the Hillary administration,” he stated. “The war is now taking place… a proxy war between the United States and Russia. This has always been their goal for regime change in Russia.”
Citing disclosures from former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe and Representative Tulsi Gabbard, Posobiec asserted that the whistleblower documents provide evidence of “seditious conspiracy to stop President Trump initially from becoming President… and then later from being able to enact his policies.”
He further said that any future prosecutions related to these allegations could face challenges if brought in Washington, DC. “If you bring charges like this in Washington, DC, nobody with a D next to their name is going to be convicted,” he added. “There are plans afoot, shall we say, to make sure that a DC jury pool doesn't necessarily need to enter into the question.”
Posobiec pointed to potential jurisdictional arguments to change the venue: “A raid on Mar-a-Lago to retrieve the Russiagate documents—that would mean that Palm Beach or the Southern District of Florida would be the appropriate venue.”
Later in the episode, retired Col. Douglas Macgregor joined the discussion and supported Posobiec’s interpretation of the documents, calling them unsurprising but deeply troubling. “What you revealed is certainly not a surprise. It's more disappointment,” Macgregor said. “Many of those same people are still in positions of influence and power.”
Macgregor accused US and allied intelligence agencies of manufacturing geopolitical narratives. “The lies about Russia, the lies about what's been happening in Ukraine, the lies about what's going on in the Middle East—these things have been wrapped into narratives carefully packaged by the CIA, MI6, and Mossad, and disseminated to the American population,” he said.
“What’s really bad about all of it, Jack,” he concluded, “is that it suggests that our ballot box is just broken, because it doesn't really matter who you vote for.”
