"There's the strange broker role that Epstein seemed to play in commercial transactions and in the affairs of the billionaire class," Benz stated.
He drew comparisons to Hunter Biden, in that he had "relationships with large corporations and with very powerful nation-state governments" and both lived a "sort of rock and roll lifestyle, high profile, high net worth, deep, deep connections, constantly surrounded by drugs, and prostitutes and firearms."
"The bagman for the Deep State was Jeffrey Epstein," Posobiec stated, "one of them."
Benz asked Posobiec: "Has the US State Department ever given you property to live in overlooking Central Park, New York?"
He went on to explain that in 1996, the State Department rented out a property that was formerly seized by an "Iranian tycoon" to none other than Jeffrey Epstein.
"What the heck is the State Department doing with a transaction like that?" Benz posited.
Epstein only got into trouble after he subleased the Central Park apartment for free to the lawyer who defended the mob in the 1987 Pizza Connection drug ring trial.
"This guy was the was the lawyer for the mob defending the mob against running international racketeering and drug laundering charges from the 70s and 80s," Benz said.
Simultaneously, he explained, the assistant attorney general in the US Justice Department was "saying Epstein belonged to intelligence, while the intelligence arms over diplomacy wing, the State Department, was simultaneously doing real estate deals with the guy while he was passing it on then to the seedy underbelly of the mob world."
Posobiec pointed out that there have often been overlaps between the interests of intelligence agencies part of "the regime" and organized crime because "you have people who have a certain set of skills ... in order to procure, to move items, to do so surreptitiously, to get the job done."
"I think people know that connections between the FBI and the mob go back quite some time," he stated.
Benz explained that the CIA was actually constructed under the 1947 National Security Act "to create a cloak and dagger agency that had plausible deniability power."
With this, the CIA could do "essentially anything they wanted at the time. They were engaged in assassinations, government overthrows, election rigging, working with the mob, you name it, as long as they could publicly deny responsibility for it."
"We need dirty things done oftentimes, but we don't want to claim responsibility for doing them," he explained. "So we need relations with mom tight organizations or sometimes it's union, you know, sort of seedy unions, or sometimes it's money laundering activity in order to do these things in a ... plausibly deniable way."
