Posobiec noted that many people outside the church are curious about what Christians hold on to. “I think so many people who aren't believers are saying, okay, you guys know something. You guys have some kind of secret. What is that secret? And I just say, come on in, guys. The door's open every Sunday. The book's right here. Find it. It's not that hard. Everywhere, just go. It's not hard.”
Beck agreed, saying the times feel Biblical. “You just go. We are absolutely looking at, we're living in Biblical times, and we're seeing, we just saw a prophet. We just saw a prophet, I think. I mean, think of all the prophets of old. I mean, it usually doesn't end well for them either.”
Posobiec responded: “John the Baptist will tell you all about that.”
Beck continued by talking about Kirk’s transformation over the years. “Right, and you look at them and you see somebody that God takes at a young age or whenever they're ready, and he just changes them. And Charlie was always amazing, but around 2017, 2018, somewhere in this area, maybe 2020, he changed. He became a tool in the hand of the Lord. You know what I mean? He was a clear tool in the hand of the Lord.”
Posobiec said Kirk didn’t always put his faith at the forefront, but became a leader in doing so. “And he didn't always lead with faith originally. And in many ways, the movement didn't have that, and society had said, be quiet about it, you Christian conservatives, the religious right, you lost everything, you fools. Go to church, but leave it in there. Leave it behind the closed doors. And I want to say, Charlie, you as well, some of the first, and certainly on campus, Charlie was the first one to say, 'no, I'm going to bring the Lord back to campus.'”
