It began in 2016, Benz explained, when "you basically had this detente declared between the Yankee-Cowboy war and it became the Yankee-Cowboy alliance ... against Trump, against populism."
Trump was coming into power right around the time that the Brexit movement was coming to a conclusion and the EU was on the brink of losing France, Italy, Germany and Spain.
"NATO was terrified that the EU is going to fall apart," Benz said. "So NATO is going to come undone, there'll be no way to enforce IMF debt, the rules-based international order would all collapse."
Posobiec pointed out that recently, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky came to the United States and met with President Biden, the head of House, the head of Senate, military leaders, and then met with the World Bank.
"It's right there, folks. Right right in front of your face," Posobiec said. "So the goal is to make these countries dependent on your power structure, and then you get more power."
Many entities and countries, as he explained, such as India, Hungary and Poland, are pushing against the "rise of a multipolar world" and want to "maintain their own national sovereignty."
He continued: "This is why the rise of nation-states is always as always leveled an incredible threat to this."
Posobiec said that Trump does not necessarily have the backing of these globalist power structures, just as he does not the "Yankees" or the "Cowboys." He does, however, have the backing of small businesses, cultural influencers such as Dana White, casinos, etc. and "sort of this hodgepodge of other moneyed assets throughout the United States, but not really anyone who is directly related to either of those power structures."
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