The discussion followed the storming of a Christian church in St. Paul by anti-ICE agitators operating under the name “Operation Pull Up.” Viral video from the incident showed protesters interrupting worship services, shouting at congregants, and targeting parishioners over the presence of a pastor who also works for Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Emmons said the attack went beyond general hostility toward religion and was explicitly racialized. She noted that the agitators repeatedly described the churchgoers as “white Christians,” accusing them of moral failure and privilege while disrupting services and reportedly frightening children in attendance.
“This was not just anti-Christian,” Emmons said. “They were specifically targeting white Christians.”
Posobiec compared the unrest to historical moments that preceded broader societal breakdowns, pointing to the Spanish Civil War as a more apt parallel than the pre-Civil War violence known as “Bleeding Kansas,” which Emmons wrote an op-ed on.
Emmons also noted the involvement of left-wing activist William Kelly, who filmed himself confronting churchgoers and later praised a local mosque for welcoming him. She said the contrast underscored what she described as a deliberate effort to intimidate specific communities.
The episode further addressed the role of protest leader Nekima Armstrong, a civil rights attorney and former NAACP chapter president, who reportedly claimed religious justification for the action. Emmons said the pastor allegedly targeted by protesters was not even present during the service.
Posobiec also drew parallels to the Nashville Christian school shooting, referencing writings by Audrey Hale that allegedly showed racial and religious animus toward white Christians. He questioned why such details were initially withheld from the public.




