On stage at the Turning Point Action Conference in Tampa—held live near the Gulf of America—Jack Posobiec sat down with conservative commentator and former police officer Brandon Tatum to talk about the evolution of Turning Point USA, Gen Z’s political shift, and the public demand for answers in the Jeffrey Epstein files.
Posobiec opened the conversation by asking Tatum about the growth of the Turning Point movement over the years.
“What it is is a generational changer,” Tatum said. “We have more generations that are coming through that are learning, that are growing, that are being blessed, that are blessing others. I think that the beauty of what Charlie has been able to do as an example for all these young people, is that he’s been able to capture the hearts and minds of people who really want to do better. They’ve been able to grow and I’ve seen the growth in some of the people who have been here since the first SAS event that are now leading in this country.”
Posobiec said how the organization’s long-term influence is now shaping national elections. “It’s been really good to see the progression,” he said. “When you look at that 18 to 29 demographic, that’s a voting block, and the new Gen Z voting block is totally upending politics.”
“Conventional thinking is that always the youth vote will be leftist, and as they get older they will be more conservative. Millennials, I call them Gen Y or Centennials, they’re on that arch where they’re 50/50. Gen Z is not like that.”
Tatum followed up, saying, “Imagine a world without Turning Point USA. I don’t think young people would have another outlet to hear something different to what they hear on campus and being lied to by the mainstream media. What Charlie and these young people have been able to do over this amount of time has been incredible and is a huge part in saving our country.”
The conversation then turned, by Posobiec, to the Epstein files.
“The very first day, I uploaded it and said here’s the link," Posobiec said about the infamous release of the white binders given to several influencers. "The problem was, all the stuff that was in that binder, it had kind of already been released through various court cases. There was an itemized list that came from one of the search warrants that had not yet been public. So one page, basically,” he said.
Posobiec then asked Tatum to weigh in from a law enforcement perspective. “Can you try to distill some of this for us?” he asked.
Tatum replied that uncertainty is the biggest challenge with the Epstein case. “That’s a good question but the problem that we have now is that we have no idea what we don’t know. We don’t know if the information [was] available and then has been deleted and therefore they really don’t have anything to present, we don’t know if they have something to present and refuse to present it… We don’t know if Kash Patel and Dan Bongino want to but Bondi doesn’t, we don’t know if all of them want it and Trump doesn’t want it to happen.”
“From a law enforcement perspective, you always have to have an open mind. Don’t get married to a narrative,” he added. “It’s scary in the terrain that we’re in because we don’t know who to trust.”
Posobiec opened the conversation by asking Tatum about the growth of the Turning Point movement over the years.
“What it is is a generational changer,” Tatum said. “We have more generations that are coming through that are learning, that are growing, that are being blessed, that are blessing others. I think that the beauty of what Charlie has been able to do as an example for all these young people, is that he’s been able to capture the hearts and minds of people who really want to do better. They’ve been able to grow and I’ve seen the growth in some of the people who have been here since the first SAS event that are now leading in this country.”
Posobiec said how the organization’s long-term influence is now shaping national elections. “It’s been really good to see the progression,” he said. “When you look at that 18 to 29 demographic, that’s a voting block, and the new Gen Z voting block is totally upending politics.”
“Conventional thinking is that always the youth vote will be leftist, and as they get older they will be more conservative. Millennials, I call them Gen Y or Centennials, they’re on that arch where they’re 50/50. Gen Z is not like that.”
Tatum followed up, saying, “Imagine a world without Turning Point USA. I don’t think young people would have another outlet to hear something different to what they hear on campus and being lied to by the mainstream media. What Charlie and these young people have been able to do over this amount of time has been incredible and is a huge part in saving our country.”
The conversation then turned, by Posobiec, to the Epstein files.
“The very first day, I uploaded it and said here’s the link," Posobiec said about the infamous release of the white binders given to several influencers. "The problem was, all the stuff that was in that binder, it had kind of already been released through various court cases. There was an itemized list that came from one of the search warrants that had not yet been public. So one page, basically,” he said.
Posobiec then asked Tatum to weigh in from a law enforcement perspective. “Can you try to distill some of this for us?” he asked.
Tatum replied that uncertainty is the biggest challenge with the Epstein case. “That’s a good question but the problem that we have now is that we have no idea what we don’t know. We don’t know if the information [was] available and then has been deleted and therefore they really don’t have anything to present, we don’t know if they have something to present and refuse to present it… We don’t know if Kash Patel and Dan Bongino want to but Bondi doesn’t, we don’t know if all of them want it and Trump doesn’t want it to happen.”
“From a law enforcement perspective, you always have to have an open mind. Don’t get married to a narrative,” he added. “It’s scary in the terrain that we’re in because we don’t know who to trust.”
