Pop Culture Warriors with Lisa De Pasquale

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This week’s guest: Gavin McInnes

Several years ago I wrote about people I call “political punks” who buck the dominant groupthink in their fields. Many of them, of course, overlap with Pop Culture Warriors, including Clint Eastwood, David Mamet, Ann Coulter, James Woods, Nick Searcy, Gina Carano, Greg Gutfeld, John Milius, Ted Nugent, and this week’s guest, Gavin McInnes. 

Among the punks, McInnes has the distinction of actually having been in a punk band. When yuppies reigned, McInnes had a mohawk. Now when people wear pajamas to the grocery store, McInnes is in a dapper suit.

Before it was dominated by Gen Z, McInnes was a content creator, though he may cringe at the label. One of my favorites is his viral video (I know, cringe), “How to Fight a Baby.” 

As the founder of several media properties, including Censored.TV, McInnes is an entrepreneur at heart and a warrior for culture, both pop and Western.

Pop Culture Warriors with Lisa De Pasquale is an interview column dedicated to the significant work of freedom lovers who chose the path of more resistance. Not only are these pop culture warriors fighting the predominant groupthink in entertainment, but also the predominant groupthink on the right side of politics that entertainment doesn’t matter or that the pop culture war is lost. The purpose of this column is to highlight their projects and contributions to expand freedom in new, exciting, and counterculture ways. 

What do you think Andrew Breitbart meant by “politics is downstream from culture”? 

Look at the “Don’t Say Gay” bill. That came from @LibsofTikTok drawing attention to the absolute lunatics who are teaching our kids. After enough ridicule, it became impossible to avoid and eventually the legislature had to do something about it. This is how you get things done. 

What was your childhood pop culture obsession?

Punk rock changed my life. It made it OK to be weird and also taught us, “There is no authority but yourself.” We put on our own concerts and organized our own rallies and when adults told us what to do, our first reaction was always, “Or what?”   

Are there any pop culture favorites you’ve introduced to your kids? What was their reaction?

My kids have totally rejected punk and pretty much everything else I introduced them to but my youngest has recently taken to Beano comics. I was born in Britain and I’ve managed to pass on that special kind of mischief you can only get from Dennis and his dog Gnasher. 

Tell us about the last movie, TV show, book you consumed for entertainment.

I’m reading “I Am Not a Gangster” by Bobby Cummines right now about a North London criminal who ran a powerful “firm.” It’s not that well-written but I’ve been reading a lot of books by cops and criminals these days and the more authentic they are, the worse the writing. I’ve become accustomed to the typos. They’re my comfort food. 

What would you say to readers who say they’ve opted out of the pop culture war? 

Oh, stop being such a bore. As the English Beat said, “We’re all the same / It’s only a game.” 

What can readers do to support you and your projects?

Go to Censored.TV but don’t tell anyone. You’ll get banned.