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Isn’t the Southern Poverty Law Center the Real Hate Group?

For many years now, Focus on the Family (FOTF) has been one of the most respected and influential evangelical ministries in the country, and so it came as quite a shock when, earlier this month, FOTF’s traditional, pro-family views were deemed so extreme that TOMS Shoes founder Blake Mycoskie, himself a member of an evangelical church, decided to break ties with them.   He stated, “Had I known the full extent of Focus on the Family’s beliefs, I would not have accepted the invitation to speak at their event.”

Prior to his apology, Mycoskie had been blasted for his association with FOTF, and a blogger on the radically leftist Daily Kos website complained “that Mycoskie and his company TOMS supports one of the quintessential hate groups, Focus on the Family, which was named as a Hate Group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.”   Focus on the Family a “quintessential hate group”?

If it’s any consolation, FOTF is not alone.   When Texas Gov. Rick Perry announced a stadium prayer event to be held on Aug. 6, he came under heavy and immediate fire, not just over an alleged violation of the separation of church and state, but also because he was cooperating with the American Family Association (AFA), another so-called hate group.   Yes, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has branded the organization founded by Don Wildmon, best known for his calls for boycotts over morally offensive programming and advertising, as a hate group.   (To be technical, the SPLC labeled them an “anti-gay group” but featured them on the same list with the other “hate groups.”   Since then, the liberal media, almost without exception, has labeled the AFA an SPLC-designated hate group.   And because the SPLC in the past labeled FOTF an “anti-gay group,” they too are considered to be on the SPLC’s hate group list.)

What is the SPLC’s criteria for such extreme charges?   It claims that the groups in question (which include the Family Research Council and Concerned Women for America) knowingly disseminate false information and demonizing propaganda about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people, as documented by them (I use the word “documented” lightly) in their report “10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked,” published late last year.

And while the report itself is nothing new, what is new is that its findings are now coming to national attention through these recent events.   And many people, rather than questioning the SPLC, are instead questioning these venerable family organizations.   Perhaps it is time to ask this question:   Is it the SPLC that should be designated a hate group?   Are they the ones spreading false information and demonizing propaganda about other groups, thereby defaming their good names and placing them in the ranks of the KKK and neo-Nazis?

It should first be recalled that the actual SPLC report was terribly flawed, as I and a number of others pointed out.   For example, based on the report, if you state that kids do best when raised by a mom and dad (as opposed to two moms or two dads), you are propagating a known falsehood.   Or if you agree with the many therapists and psychologists who argue that a child’s upbringing and early-life experiences (including being sexually abused) play a major role in the development of his or her sexual orientation, you are propagating a known falsehood.   The same is true if you claim that hate crime laws could lead to the arresting of pastors who criticize homosexuality (this has already happened in Sweden, England and Canada), or if you argue that it would be detrimental to the military to have gays serving openly.   Yes, according to the SPLC, disseminating such views officially constitutes “hate.”

All of which begs the question:   Is the SPLC, by its own criteria, the real hate group? It still carries weight in plenty of circles here in America, and so when it categorizes an organization as a hate group, many people of good conscience are influenced by that designation, one which is quite stigmatizing and destructive, as evidenced by the recent events involving FOTF and AFA mentioned above.   Yet it is the leaders of the SPLC who are either irresponsibly attacking other fine organizations, or worse still, knowingly defaming them.

Who then deserves the title of “hate group,” Focus on the Family or the Southern Poverty Law Center?   Who has been guilty of demonizing others and spreading hurtful, inaccurate information?   Whose actions and words have been hateful?   The record speaks for itself.

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  • DrMaxHathaway

    Wouldn’t the SPLC be off more service as a stack of used firewood?

    Wouldn’t the so-called lawyers who work there be more valuable as food for worms and maggots?

    The whole notion that our founding fathers (and mothers) would have ever tolerated these lairs, charlatans and fiends for the sake of constitutionality purity is pure rubbish. 

    They would have been tarred and feathered, minimally, and more likely made into tree ornaments.  — This is why we’re all tree-huggers, isn’t it?

    Even the US military now has an asymmetrical war capability, I mean, even aside from CIA assassinations. 

    Should the Conservative Christian community consider launching its own jihad against the overflowing filth and moral degradation emmanating from the radical left.

    FYI: what the SPLC says homosexuals is pure poppycock which, being poppies they should know.

    Homosexuality does result from child molestation and similar deviant experiences during critical developmental phases and other vulnerable periods of human life.  I speak as a former psychologist who specialized in child sexual abuse.

    Further, the transformation of homosexuality as a listed mental disorder in the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders – psychiatrists diagnostic  “Bible”) in the early 1970 is chronicled in a now out-of-print book by Ruth Tiffany Barnhouse in which the author describes how an organized homosexual mob attacked the annual convention of the American Psychiatric Assn and forced them to vote homosexuality out of the DSM — to call it “normal”—against the recommendations the APA’s own Homosexuality study group of expert psychiatrists.  Of course, homosexuals had already infiltrated the APA, just as they have infiltrated the other APA (the American Psychological Assn), and the American Bar and many other professional groups.

    The truth is, homosexuality is a deviant sexual obsessive disorder commonly associated with pedophilia.  There is not a shred of scientific evidence that Homosexuals are born. 

    I have personally seen them made.  I had recently seen the name of a former female psychologists’ now adult son in the news and when I looked him up, it was clear that he is now gay.  I knew him from the ages 12 to 15.  He was a very bright, gifted young man, especially in mathematics.  I would have thought he would have pursued a career in that discipline, but I knew his psychologist mother.    She herself had been molested by her own step-father (she claimed) and had later, as an adult woman, been raped by a black man.   
    She had a hysteria about this boy’s father and claimed all manner of bad things about him.  Unfortunately, she was the one raising this young man and teaching him the evil ways of men.  Developmentally, he grew up to identify with her.  Freud called this identification with the Aggressor, which she was. 

    I recently discovered this young man now in his 30s, not the brilliant man of mathematics and sciences that he could have been, but now a homosexual dance teacher in NYC where
    he apparently lives as a pass around for wealthy homosexual men.  He spent his teen years in English residential school where, as it is a tradition with the Brits, they molest all the young ones.  If his misandric mother had not already set the stage for it, he might have survived.  But now he lives as another squandered life in NYC.

  • RJLigier

    SPLC is a homosexual leftist political organization. They are also supported by the Communist Party of America.

  • OlGeezer

    Once again what started as a good idea and organization has been taken over by a bunch of sudo-intellectual, liberal progressives…Marxists who have now acquired a “bull horn” by using the name.

    They slander and smear good organizations and individuals all under the guise of their decision as to what is right or wrong. 

    To give any credence to any statement by this group is pure lunacy.

  • Indiola

    Amen! The SPLC is nothing more than ACLU lite. Kinda like a shitty, watered down version of a shitty, watered down beer.

  • joesolargenius

    I agree with your statement of what once started as a good thing concerning the SPLC and would like to add that they are now nothing more than a hired gun which openly attacks anyone whom differs or disagrees with those groups that donate money to them.
    They are ran by an African American Lawyer named Morris Dees whom has no problem attacking other groups ran by white people but seems unconcerned with the actions of the New Black Panthers Party which had videos on you tube promoting violence against every white man, woman and child as well as having members whom actually do that.
    I have researched both FOTF and AFTAH which stands for Americans For Truth About Homosexuality another Christian organization labeled a hate group by the southern poverty lie center and neither one mentions or promotes violence or hatred against anyone yet they are labeled so by the SPLC.
    I believe it is time to accept the fact that the SPLC now needs to add its own name to the list of hate groups in America as well as the new black panther part and la raza along with all the homosexual groups that attack mainstream America !

  • Genna2

    Most reasonably intelligent people understand that FOTF isn’t a hate group nor are many of the other groups designated as such by SPLC.  And people of good conscience are not influenced by SPLC’s political propoganda and finger-pointing, they’re intimidated by it. It’s a method liberals have used for decades with great success. Those who don’t believe what they believe are racists, bigots and haters. In the narrow minds of political intimidators like SPLC there is no tolerance for views other than their own.

  • Anxious_in_MA

    Thank you for trying to set the record straight on the history of how homosexuality was declared “normal.”  The APA’s about face is often portrayed as a triumph of science and progress, and you make clear it was actually the result of threats and attacks (a/k/a  the left-wing definition of “scientific thought”).  Your point regarding the schools is well taken.  In my experience in the Boston area parents sent their sons to Cat-lick high schools for both a good education and to protect them from the coarser elements of public schools, and unwittingly left them exposed to the attacks of homosexual priests (pedophile is so ill-fitting a term to their actions that they have come up with ephebophilia to try to define it more accurately, so I’m calling a spade a spade).  Some turned out homosexual, and they are far from gay.  One I knew drank himself to death.  It’s difficult to think about it, because it would break their parents’ hearts to think that they had made their sons vulnerable to attacks when trying to protect them.

  • Hominid

    ‘The whole notion that our founding fathers [sic] (and mothers) would have ever tolerated these lairs, charlatans and fiends for the sake of constitutionality [sic] purity is pure rubbish.’  On the money, Max – we tolerate far too much anti-Americanism in the name of Constitutional protections.

  • treshall

    Here is a newsflash for our so obviously challenged leftist detractors: a “stadium prayer event” is not the establishment, promotion or propagation of a religion. And while we’re at it, let us remind those with the truly “hate-filled” rhetoric that the Constitution never mentions the “separation of church and state”; you may remember when Congresswoman Michele Bachmann mentioned this in a debate and was all but laughed off the stage by the incredibly tolerant and accepting leftist reporters (forgive the redundancy) in the room. The Constitution forbids the establishment of any state-sanctioned religion, period. Though the left are delusional, forever seeing and inventing non-existent clauses in what they term our “living, breathing” national document (that is when they’re not saying how discriminatory and outdated it is), we Conservatives know and love our country, as founded, and its glorious Constitution, so much so that we actually know what’s in it.

  • JimPVA

    With so little real prejudice/hate existing in the U.S. these days, SPLC has to drum up bogus ‘hate’ or they will go out of business.  The truth is SPLC has been behind the prejudice in America curve from its beginning and has always had to turn over every rock to find any real prejudice/hate.  That SPLC is going after alleged anti-gay ‘hate’ pretty much makes it official that there is no more race hate in America and SPLC needs life support or its lawyers will be looking for real jobs in the hopeless Obama economy.

  • rebelyell4

    I guess we all know the basics. If a group exists to gain some sort of equal rights, the implication is that they want “more” than what they already have. They already have “equal”, but it’s not good enough.

    In this modern day and age the only person not getting “equal” rights is the average white male. This is the person all groups want to be more than equal to. The result is that we white males have nothing left. Equality now exists between all these individual groups, but the white male and secondly the white race, is left out in the cold.

    The minute someone speaks up about it, they are considerred rascists or nazis. So quickly back in their shell they go. That is the problem exactly. With all the socalled groups getting just a little more equal rights for each other, one would rather be part of any other group but a WASP. Never mind anglo saxen, it involves all whites. More men are placed on the less than equal scale than woman, even in the white group.

    To me, the most obvious treachery I see is the way Hollywood treats the races when television commercials are made. A black woman has no chance of being the incompetent fool, the black male is slightly worse off. Next it becomes a lighter color skin such as oriental or latin. Again the woman always has a distinct advatage over the man, the male species alway lower on the brain scale than the female in Hollywood. Now even physical ability.

    The scale rolls on through the races till we get to even the children being set apart. Now here they get even further into seperating dummies. When a choice is made between a good lookng girls and a not so, or chubby girl, the better looking one is smarter and the dummy is fatter. If a male is involved the dummy is the male, even if he looks good and smart, he is the male, so he gets to be the dummy. The lighter and uglier they are, the dumber they get.

    As a society we are constantly being cast into roles by the liberals and society is being undermined by this propaganda. There is a mountain of evidence of the white males creative spirit and leadership potential in world history. Plenty of proof is around that white males were more than equal in the development of the modern world. Western Civilization would not be at the stage it is now were it not for the imagination and inventiveness of the white male.

    Woman and minority races often claim to be able to do the same work. Yes, once a method is invented and the process is secure, most humans can follow the guidelines or use the machines, or processes that are the example. It has taken many white males to set up what is the status quo and yes, they don’t need them now.

    I would say, however, that society will stop or at least slow down in its future developement of many things if the white male goes further into decline. The development of humankind itself can not go forward without the driving force of the white alpha male to stretch it ahead. The results will be self expanatory.

  • chrism12743

    Working in a correctional facility in New England for many years, our department used to get the SPLC magazine monthly, until it became painfully obvious that this organization is extremely racist. Every issue had nothing in it other than stories about white hate groups, veryseldom would they even mention other groups. The administration saw fit to no longer subscribe to their rag.
    The SPLC has effectively marginalized themselves, to wit, no one in the department pays them any attention. This is classic race baiting and most people with more than a third grade education can see this.
    If the SPLC brands you a hate group, don’t sweat it, only socialists and rabid liberals care what they say.

  • DaneChile

    And remember that the Constitution was referring to the FEDERAL government´s prohibition from establishing and/or impoing a NATIONAL religion.  The article does not mentin of Governor Perry called for a “prayer event” concerning a specific religion but, in any case, he is not part of the Federal Government.

    Since the noun “prayer” simply means a petition to A god or “an earnest request or wish”, it is really just a form of contemplating and voicing ones desires.  Each person attending was free to choose the recipient of his or her prayers.  Perhaps if it had been advertised as “group meditation”, the libbies would have been more accepting.

    I´m so tired of the word “hate” used to describe “disagreement” that I no longer pay attention when someone says it.  It has lost any strength that it may have had.

  • notarightwingtool

    Well- I’ve been hanging around this site for a couple of days, and I gotta say – it’s time to go.  Each minute I spend reading sanctimonious drivel and whiny, childish “I know you are but what am I” BS of you right-wingers makes me feel a little bit dumber.  And I gotta stop before I become as stupid as 90% of the neo-con fascists at this site.  Whenever anyone presents an argument that cannot be refuted by facts, you folks just jump into name calling and out and out lying.  There is no decency at this site, and I fear becoming part of the problem if I continue to visit.

    Most of the post here are nothing but divisive fear-mongering diatribes (and don’t even get me started on the actual articles).  And I admit that for a while it was fun reading the completely ignorant views of the morons here.  But now its become just sad, and there is enough misery on this planet (the wars, climate change, drought, starvation, disease, republicans) that any sane person must concern themselves with that one can learn of by just opening their eyes.  To add to the pile of crap by reading the woefully uninformed opinions of you scared, pathetic little children is just not worth it.

    For the record:
    - Obama was born in America; He has been a terrible disappointment, but that’s because he is too spineless and cowed by the republicans to do the right thing in situation after situation;
    - Climate change does exist.  You idiots can deny it all you want, but its there.  Btw – when all you losers run around in the winter after a blizzard, screaming and wetting your pants, claiming that snow is proof that there is no global warming – do you cite the 110+ degree temps in Minnesota and in the Canadian prairies as proof that climate change does exist?  Probably not, because that would entail logical consistency…And just an additional fact – when it is extremely cold, it doesn’t snow.  I lived in the arctic for 18 months and it was so cold that we received practically no snow between October and March (when temps would be between minus 20 and minus 60).  Heat causes the atmosphere to absorb water and release it (yes, morons – even when the temperature is below freezing);
    - Being gay is about as much a choice as being a male or being white.  I’m pretty sure that most of the vitriolic homophobes are simply overcompensating because when they see a gay man their natural response is “Ooo – now how do I get me some of that?” 
    - Gays have been in the military for as long as there have been militaries.  And for the folks who say “what if I’m in the shower and some gay dude looks at me and gets aroused” – get over yourself.  Chances are they won’t be aroused by you.  Sorry to break it too you, but you just ain’t all that;
    - Marriage is a legal contract.  That said, how can the government prohibit someone from entering said contract?  The arguments that have been made against gay rights are the exact same as those made against black people during the civil rights movement (with the possible exception being that not even you retards would say that being black is a choice;
    - “The rich pay all the taxes” – how much money did Palpatine’s, err…Rupert Murdoch’s News Corpse pay in taxes in the last 4 years?  They should have paid 3.6 billion, but instead received a 4.8 billion refund.  The oil companies are making record profits each and every quarter but still receive subsidies.  The debt and the tax burden has shifted entirely on the poor and middle class, while the rich pay SFA.  If the rich paid what they claim they do pay, the debt crisis would be over forever;
    - “The government is banning lightbulbs”  Sorry, sparky – they are not.  All they have done is set requirements to make them more efficient (did you know that 90% of the energy a light-bulb uses is given off as heat, not light?  It’s true.  You can look it up).  And it was the BUSH GOVERNMENT that set this regulation.  But Obama is a black Kenyan Muslim Communist Socialist Fascist Klingon Wookie so its all his fault.  Why do you all just call him a N!gger.  Its how you rednecks feel;
    - James O’Keefe is a brilliant journalist – only if you think FauxNews is an actual Journalistic enterprise.  He edits his video to make it seem like that which never happened is in fact true (He never walked into the ACORN office with his little whore dressed like a pimp and asked for help.  Once again – look it up).

    Look, I could go on.  My main point here is I really hope Human Events stays alive forever.  As long as you all have this online interactive circle-jerk to amuse yourself with, hopefully you won’t think to act on your idiotic impulses and actually destroy the country and the planet.

    Toodles

    PS – I do apologize for the fact that many of the points I brought up aren’t an exact fit for this “article”.  But then again, most of you ramble into the most inane bullsh!t that I figure this addendum is hardly necessary. 

  • Concerned4America

    What does any of this have to do with poverty and what does this have to do with “southern”? Most of the Southerners I know (I grew up in Arkansas) think homosexuality is an abomination.

  • GomeznSA

    AFAIK – the splc still ‘bills’ themselves as a tax exempt organization – perhaps some inquiries into salaries and funding sources should be made. And maybe the ‘information’ that they are dispensing as well…………. 

  • Concerned4America

    Yes, go play with your own kind. Everyone will be happier.

  • RJLigier

    It’s always amusing when sanctimonious homosexuals/bisexuals manifesting a myriad of personality disorders and character neuroses feel the need to project. But HE is an open forum, and it’s always interesting reading the posts of neurotic individuals.

  • http://twitter.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

    First things first: Who is defining what is hate and what isn’t? I define it as: maliciously spreading hatred of another group or organization solely and expressly for the purpose of marginalization, when facts have conclusively shown that the opposite is true. (Maliciously and conclusively in my book are absolutely necessary terms.)

    Vis a vis the Perry thing, it was because he as promoting it on the governor’s website for a time (but not anymore). Private organizations could have invited Perry as a guest of honor and there would have been no outrage.

    As for studying whether or not a kid does bet depending on what kind of family the person is raised in, vis a vis gay or hetero, it’s at least incomplete for now, as prior to Sunday, there was no such thing as “gay marriage” (by the will of the people or through their elected representatives). It might be conclusively shown down the line, BUT it will take at least 10 years or so.

    Returning to the question in the start of my post: Is SPLC a hate group? No, and if anyone is willing to say otherwise, I’m ready for the debate.

  • http://twitter.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

    How are you defining racism? Because the one you should be adhering to is: Is a group being treated less than another solely and expressly on the basis of race, and is such based in other than fact, and is such being done with the intent of malice? If that is not the case, that is not racism. (The same standard applies for hatred.)

  • http://twitter.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

    SPLC does not receive taxpayer funding. As for what you’re saying – they haven’t done anything to warrant losing it.

  • Andy osnard

    There have been articles around for years criticizing the Southern Poverty Law Center.  Personally I would have them flogged and flayed for using the word “Southern” in their name.  Southern means something, and not what these Fifth Columnists are demeaning it to be.

    This same extreme leftest organization helped a group of illegal aliens steal a rancher’s property in court, I think out in Arizona.  They are of the same ilk as the ACLU and the ADL, bringing in millions of dollars a year in donations from nut jobs and other liberals.

    Like the ADL, they have appointed themselves as Gatekeepers of our behaviour.  Most of their top brass receive lavish salaries and expense accounts and of course tax write offs.

    Being drawn and quartered would be too mild of a punishment for them, and I can’t understand how they have survived in the South for as long as they have.  No that criticism of their radicalism is becoming more mainstream, maybe some patriots will help close their doors.

  • http://twitter.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

    Perry was using his website to promote it…which is what got others riled up.

  • Niniane

    Wow, we are so impressed that you are stooping into the Internet “sewer” to grace us with your inane blather. And what your tirade has to do with the article about the SPLC is beyond  the understanding of any rational person. And you certainly are a right wing tool, a shining example of how convoluted and silly the left wing can be.

  • http://twitter.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

    This same extreme leftest organization helped a group of illegal aliens
    steal a rancher’s property in court, I think out in Arizona

    Please cite the case.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BFOP6VGN2QHOUSGSAVONWMH4LM Don Lain

    Just like everything about the brain dead liberals: Up is down, back is foward, black is white, wrong is right, and day is night.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BFOP6VGN2QHOUSGSAVONWMH4LM Don Lain

    Remindes me of my X-wife.

  • Dustoff

    Is SPLC a hate group?

    So how they they claim another group is hate?  

  • Dustoff

    Well- I’ve been hanging around this site for a couple of days, and I gotta say – it’s time to go
    ****************************************

    HAHAHAHAHA,   Yet you hung around to gab,gab.gab. 

    Typical of most lib’s. You came here to impress with your so called smarts. Instead you had your comments handed back to you time after time.
    Your just a sore loser and nothing more. Enjoy KOS with your loser friends.

  • Hominid

    ‘Southern’ is a group identity.  Perhaps the most corrupting influence in America is group politics.  To identify with ‘southern’ is in principle the same as to identify with black, or gay, feminist, latino, or any of the other ‘groups’ out there.  Don’t you agree that it would be best to end the group politics and be American.

  • Hominid

    A totally hypocritical post – filled with personal insults, baseless accusations, ignorant ramblings, and lies.  Glad to see you go away, troll.

  • TampaMike50

    The word ‘poverty’ is really code for ‘blacks’–and nobody else.  It’s literally amazing just how many laws and groups we now have in this country to protect black people only–isn’t THAT racist by definition?  When does the mission of affirmative action end?  Will we ever hear the phrase ‘mission accomplished’ and move on past this whole reverse racist attitude?  How many black people under 40 years old have actually been racially discriminated against in their lives?  I’d love to see some stats on that!  These groups do more harm than good nowadays; and should be ABOLISHED.  Definitely NO federal money or ‘grants’ of any kind to prop up the old racist arguments that have no place in our society.  I’m really sick to death of being beaten over the head with all these special interest groups whose only purpose in life is to suck free money from our government, keep a nice bureaucracy in business to pad their bank accounts, and then go out and look for a ‘case’ they can defend and plaster all over the media as ‘racist.’  It’s amusing that the only ‘hate groups’ in this country any longer are those that are anti-leftist, anti-Marxist, pro-religion, pro-work, anti-union, and ANYTHING that does NOT, repeat NOT pander to blacks, Hispanics, gays, etc. 

  • GomeznSA

    Nobody said anything about them getting tax support – they still advertise themselves as a not for profit…………..

  • GomeznSA

    Hominid I actually agree with your name calling this time! ;-)

  • rebelyell4

    There is something to be said for the “natural beast” in humans. We really aren’t different at all from the average wild animal. It’s all of those outside of the herd that want us to be different, isn’t it?

    Have any of you ever just seriously thought of one race as a herd? I have. Why would anyone in a herd of deer invite an elk to come run with them? Would the gorilla’s in the mist ask a couple of chimps to stop by for dinner? In this view there is nothing at all strange about certain groups of people wanting to exclude others. The strangest view of all is when somebody wants to be part of a completely different group. Goes completely against nature itself.

    Can you imagine being the gay dude in a herd of young bucks? Pretty soon you find yourself alone, right? Or perhaps animals feel the problem much earlier and are much like the muslims and just kill them off? I feel like we need a study in doing what comes natural?

  • DaneChile

    Adam, Adam, Adam…   You are using a dictionary definition to explain something to people who don´t know what a dictionary is and couldn´t give two hoots.  That is, you are waging a war of education against unarmed, defenseless people.

  • DaneChile

    No, Dusty.  I think he came here specifically for the article about fairies in the military.  Once that subject petered out his handlers assigned him somewhere else.  It´s 2030 EST right now.  I bet he´s still reading to see our responses to his farewell.  Why didn´t he just go away without announcing his departure?  Because he wanted The Final Word.  I´m surprised he didn´t end with “Tap tap- no take-back!!  I don´t heeeaar you!  Lalalalalllla…”.

  • DaneChile

    Isn´t he another that showed up with the fairy DADT article?  Ignore him then.  He´ll go away, also.  I hope he doesn´t do a 5,000 word “Farewell, cruel site” speech like the other jerk.

  • DaneChile

    Oh, we humans realized long ago that we are animals, too.  That´s why laws were created:  to control those animal instincts.  The fear of punishment is what keeps societies together.  What if there were no punishment for theft?  Rape? Murder? They would be as common as among the other animals. Might, guile and ferocity rule the animal kingdom, As far as the homsexuals go, I liken them to the skunk:  so disgusting that only other skunks want to be around one.

  • 8Pillars

    Wow, the ignorance in the room is overwhelming.  I guess your Judgmental children can only see as far as a few months or years, rather than truly knowing The Facts about an organization that ruined one of the most dangerous White Supremacist groups this great Nation has ever seen.  Tell me, do you all read “The Turner Diaries”?

  • pistolpete101

    Not cool TampaMike.  Not cool at all.

  • Andy osnard

    The Turner Diaries was way before SPLC was ever formed.

  • Hominid

    You’re rationalizing. And I’m not insulted – I have a thick old hide – not the ‘sensitive’ type.

  • Hominid

    What’s the diff – it’s all cultural.  ‘Southern’ may be a cultural identity, but it’s still a group identity.  What else can it be when you say ‘southern,’ you distinguish yourself from northern or western.  This leads to thinking in terms of what is in OUR groups interest as opposed to the OTHER groups’ interests – as you aptly point out when you say ‘anyone who grew up in The South and still feels IT, knows IT.’  There’s nothing wrong with being proud of one’s heritage, but group identity is corrosive when it comes to a discussion of NATIONAL political policy.

  • Hominid

    Andy boy – you once again establish your bona fides as an intellectual gnat.

  • http://twitter.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

    It’s literally amazing just how many laws and groups we now have in this
    country to protect black people only–isn’t THAT racist by definition?

    May or may not be; I’d have to see each individual policy and how it is done in practice.

  • DaneChile

    I think we´re singing from the same page here.  We all belong to a bajillion groups.  Just depends upon the context.  I agree: if we are discussing national politics the only group affiliation that matters is that we are all Americans.

    But go to the Florida-georgia game, go out on the field and say “Can´t we all just get along?”  Man!! Ol´ Uga would be on your ass  so fast you wouldn´t know what hit ya!! And if you were to be lucky enough to make it to your car, I´m bettin´ you would find an 8-ft ´gator in the back seat!! :-)

  • Andy osnard

    It’s just that an old geezer like you doesn’t understand Southern and never will. So live out your misery without it.

  • Hominid

    To Dane – you’re right we are on the same page.

  • Hominid

    Seriously, man, if people only knew the sick reality of homosexuality they wouldn’t buy into all this ‘civil rights’ baloney.  The notion that gays are the ‘same’ as everyone else except for their fixation on the bung hole is a myth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000546864664 Evance Cannon

    “Who then deserves the title of ‘hate group,’ Focus on the Family or the Southern Poverty Law Center? Who has been guilty of demonizing others and spreading hurtful, inaccurate information? Whose actions and words have been hateful? The record speaks for itself.”
       On those criteria, I’m gonna have to say FotF and AFA are the hate groups. Thank you for playing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AJTTO7JWB3AOOTBAVOIIBZL7I4 Reddude

    The comments here prove the article to be meaningless propaganda much more eloquently than anything I could say. Haters are gonna hate, and that’s what groups like FOTF are: haters. 

  • jim_in_sf

    This was the worst and dumbest article I’ve seen in quite a while. By the definitions used to expose the KKK as a hate group, the SPLC has exposed focus on the family and their related groups as hate groups.

    Seems to me that this idiot wants to be able to lie about gay people and restrict the rights of gay people and is offended when groups he supports are legitimately called out on their propaganda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Regan-DuCasse/573673881 Regan DuCasse

     I have known about FOTF for a long time. I get their newsletters and magazines. There is no record of them EVER having put in the time to fight racism or discrimination against other people. Indeed, they are exclusively funding and working more against gay people, rather than FOR heteros that need attention. This economic downturn is putting families and children at risk of divorce, domestic violence and child neglect or abandonment. Something that’s a plague worse than what gay people can do, even collectively. NOM doesn’t even use their funding to help couples adopt a child. They put their donations into traveling, and punishing judges or politicians who respect the Constitution and it’s creed.
    Jerry Falwell was an AVOWED segregationist. He supported home schooling to avoid children being integrated. When it became less profitable to be anti black, he tempered his racist activity up until it was profitable to be anti gay.

        I’ve noticed also that in at least 15 states across the country, a grown man can still marry an underage girl. I’d respect NOM, or FRC or FOTF if they’d gone after such laws, and had THEM overturned instead of keeping gay people from getting married. At least a child molester wouldn’t be able to marry their victim. Which usually they are allowed to especially if she gets pregnant.
     FOTF’s priorities are so twisted. No wonder domestic violence and it’s urgency is neglected in favor of screaming that gay people are out to get everybody.
       And instead of owning that their priorities AREN’T what they should be, Michael Brown is now playing the victim card because FOTF is recognized for what it is, rather than what they claim. There ARE higher priorities, like those I mentioned. Kids recruited into gangs, are an urgent matter. Ask anyone in prison how they got there.
    Women and children murdered by the father and husband or other significant other is one too. I’m getting sick of hearing about how threatening gay people are, when so many children are living on welfare and in foster care. Which WE ALL, including gay people, are taxed heavily to support.
    Priorities people.
    And Michael Brown, a white hetero Christian male who has the majority of political, media, industrial and social clout is complaining?
       Usury is what got us into a lot of this financial mess. Where’s his outrage about THAT sin?

  • Christian Giraldo

    Racism is over! Glory! Praise His name!

  • mykelb

    Mr. Brown’s psychiatric projection and victimization meme is nothing but a symptom of the sickness of the KKKristian Taliban in America.  They twist everything they see into some perverted, ignorant, blackened version of their own hatreds.  Why don’t you go on and meet your Jeebus if you’re that queer for him?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_X6QBC7ZUXT7QWRYQJ37UR5WNEU Bradford

    Agreed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_X6QBC7ZUXT7QWRYQJ37UR5WNEU Bradford

    The AFA and the FRC are “fine groups”. Haha. As long as your not gay, of another religion, or want to have any choice in how to live your life. And you don’t mind being lied to daily about all the things your family needs to fear, like the gays who want to destroy the fabric of society (its a lie, we just want to live happy lives).

  • canyonwalkerconnections

    First , FotF is NOT listed as a Hate Group and Brown KNOWS it. Here is my exchange with him on the issue. Here are his words dated 7/28 the SAME day as this article. Brown knows he is deceptive at best and possibly lying. His followers will believe  what he says without fact checking.

    BROWN SAYS “My article, to which I linked, clarifies my comment in the article first cited by Kathy and sets the record straight. That’s why I referenced it! Yes, FOTF is NOT on the SPLC’s hate list, and yes, because of the SPLC’s prior attacks on SPLC — name-calling and error and innuendo — it is assumed by the media that FOTF is on the SPLC hate list, and the SPLC has done nothing to correct this perception, one which began by their irresponsible reporting to start. I reached out to the SPLC numerous times, but they refused to interact with me on any level. That’s a fact, like it or not.”

    Brown himself treads frightfully close to making the list with his new book . I read it and completely reviewed it HERE: chapter by chapter. I am a straight Evangelical Christian and NOT a fan of false witness against your neighbor. At all. Brown paints the gblt community with a brush dipped in fear and twisted facts. http://canyonwalkerconnections.com/2011/04/07/a-queer-thing-happened-to-america-by-dr-michael-brown-review/
    Read the nasty words above. WOW–Christians write the BEST hate letters. No one is kinder or meaner.

    I know Brown well enough to know he is reading every post and I still do not see one from him on this thread saying “oops, I misspoke/misunderstood’ whatever. Nor has he corrected it on his on Facebook wall or posting of the article there.
    Here is my post on FotF lying–yes lying.  http://canyonwalkerconnections.com/2011/02/28/focus-on-the-family-you-make-us-look-stupid-stop-lying/   If we do not police our own, we are an even WORSE witness to those watching us and walking about from Jesus if they will even come near him. You can’t get away with this trashy propaganda anymore. We can check on it easily. The glbt community has been demonized since the early 70′s by people needing a target for their money raising. If a Christian has to create this much stir by invoking fear–Jesus is probably not in it. Just my opinion and I am in these trenches DAILY.

    I think article should be pulled because it is NOT the truth at its core.

  • Phillip Perez

    That anyone believes the lies you’re spreading is disgusting.  As a gay man living in NYC for the past decade, I’ve never met ONE person doing anything like this.  Ridiculous.   

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Reed-Boyer/1019995702 Reed Boyer

    The SPLC DIDN’T call Focus on the Family a hate group.  They designated the Family Research Council and Family Research Institute as hate groups.  Unless all these “Family” groups are all divisions of the same whole, like a hydra, Brown has (unintentionally) mis-stated facts. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/justicebeing ewe …

    you are a disgraceful bigot and hypocritical homophobe and all your rant does not hide that fact.  You are like a manipulative tyrant that throws wood onto a fire and feces onto a curb.  You consciously fan the flames of hate and evil toward those that scare your ignorant small self.  Your agenda is obvious and tired.

  • David_in_Houston

    Whether these so-called “family values” organizations are labeled “hate groups” or “anti-gay groups”, the message is exactly the same. There only goal is to make money by demonizing gay people. There is nothing “venerable” about an organization that has been exposed as liars time and time again, yet continues to promote those lies as legitimate research.

    Here are just a few of the lies: gays are pedophiles; gays adopt children for sex/or as a fashion accessory; gays recruit children; gays have shorter lifespans; gays have thousands of sexual partners; gays want to destroy marriage/families/society; homosexuality is a behavior, not a sexual orientation; gays want “special” rights, not civil rights. Do I really need to go on? This is just the tip of the iceberg.

    “…if you argue that it would be detrimental to the military to have gays serving openly.  Yes, according to the SPLC, disseminating such views officially constitutes “hate.”

    No. Promoting lies regarding gays serving in the military constitutes “hate”. The fact that 41 countries already have gay people serving openly proves that they are NOT detrimental to the military. But why have actual facts stand in the way of anti-gay propaganda?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YSLUFQRQROCDGCDWEQSFK4MJSE William

    In my Chapter on “How To Identify The Bigot In The Argument”, I use the SPLC as a prime example of a true hate group.

    There is no question but that they are beyond the pale of how decent people address subjects in dispute.  Americans who have a hard time understanding how a civilized people such as the Germans could tolerate something like the Gestapo, need only look to the media acceptance of ideological thuggery, such as the SPLC, to understand the hows & whys.  They are loathsome.

    William Flax

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YSLUFQRQROCDGCDWEQSFK4MJSE William

    Actually, the Constitution (First Amendment) prohibits Congress (The Federal Legislature) from interfering with a State establishment of religion.  It, of course, does also prohibit Congress from establishing a religion, or interfering with the free exercise of religion.

    The point is, the language prohibits any Congressional action with respect to an Establishment of religion.  That is the specific intent; very clear in the language.  (See First Amendment Guarantee Of Religious Freedom.)  The fact is that the ACLU, a sometime ally of the SPLC, has managed to completely fudge the issue and the original intent.

    No!  I do not advocate State Churches.  But truth is truth, and lies are lies.  And the SPLC are among the most dedicated enemies of truth & heritage, we have ever seen.

    William Flax

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Derek-Meyer/100000365143964 Derek Meyer

    You are fucking nuts. People such as yourself, and comments such as your own, demonstrate why your kind is considered hateful. You are a bigoted, evil, unintelligent lemming who uses religious superstition as a crutch and the bible as a tool to beat those who are different than yourself. Fuck you. Damn coward.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GZRKFFKVD2INEM6HRUZYRRAPUQ Max

    How did Human events manage to attract all of the scum of the earth to write comments to this aticle.

    To the notarightwingtool (AKA left-Wing moron):

    Climate change is natural. Change is inevitable.

    There is not such thing as homophobia, islamophobia, or any of the other abuses of the term “phobia.” These are made up by the psychology industry — the ideological heart of Marxism in the USA.
    As far as homosexuals go, this is one of the attractive things about Islam. They still have the stomach to deal with deviants and miscreants.

    Wouldn’t the SPLC be more useful as a stack of used firewood? Wouldn’t the so-called lawyers who work there be more valuable as food for worms and maggots? The whole notion that our founding fathers (and mothers) would have ever tolerated these lairs, charlatans and fiends is pure rubbish. They would have been tarred and feathered, minimally, and more likely made into tree ornaments. — This is why we’re all tree-huggers, isn’t it?

    The SPLC is a communist/Marxist operation that continually attacks Americans’ freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom from the filthy and degradation of homsexuals and others.

    Shouldn’t the Conservative Christian community consider launching its own jihad against the overflowing filth and moral degradation emmanating from the radical left.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1437393512 Roger Hess

    He shouldn’t have need a lawyer. Except the hate group (southern poverty law center) came knocking.

  • Steven Strauss

    SPLC can’t look after all fifty states. The Southern in their name correlates to Richard Nixon’s “Southern Strategy.”

  • Steven Strauss

    Southern Poverty Law Center sues terrorists. Always has. Always will.

  • john

    They are called “gangs” dumbass… and there are hundreds all over the u.s… They are a bunch of murderous thugs who the southern pov law cen will not list as “hate groups” because their (SPLC) whole agenda is to demonize any conservative white american.

  • southern feminist

    boy scouts get taxpayer dollars and they advocate anti homo and anti-atheism….so your point would be what

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/BigOle-Tater/100003221375360 Big’Ole Tater

    What’s funny is the lefties actively “hating” the anti-gay “haters”. Answering hate with hate – that’s genius. SPLC and the religious right need each other because hate is the only emotion they know. This is by far the most pathetic comment section I’ve been on in a long time.

  • AugustineThomas

    All leftists know is vengeance. It takes Christ for mercy!

  • Victoria Lamb

    Yes, it does.

  • Dispatch66

    I view Southern Poverty Law Center as a HATE GROUP. I DO NOT consider Family Research Council or Focus On The Family HATE groups at all. If SPLC considers me a “HATE person” because I donate to both FRC and FOTF then all I ask is that they spell my name right when adding me to their HATE list. Thank you.

  • Mark N Starla Traina

    SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER – MANTRA -‘If you’re not left wing, you’re a hate group’

    SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER “EXPOSED” as an ULTR-LEFT-WING-HATE-GROUP 03-28-2014

    Examine the EVIDENCE in these three CLIPS!

    1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-rVcl_XLdM

    2) http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/02/Emails-Expose-Southern-Policy-Law-Center-s-Collaboration-With-DOJ

    3) http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/who-is-the-hate-group

    PLEASE HELP U.S. put the SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER and the INFAMOUS ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE OUT OF BUSINESS?

    2014 – ADL & SPLC SMEAR CAMPAIGN – Lets do to them EXACTLY what these RUTHLESS LILY WHITE LYING LIBERAL ZIONNIST ORGANIZATIONS have been doing to U.S. for the past 40- years!

    “STRICK while the IRON is HOT – my WHITE BROTHERS and SISTERS!”

    naawp

    fatuous1

    (504) 231-3056

    MARK TRAINA

    FatuousCra@aol.com

    http://www.marktraina.webs.com

    CANNIDATE for LOUISIANA GOVERNOR 2016

    NATIONAL ASSOCIATION for the ADVANCEMENT of WHITE PEOPLE

  • http://www.marktraina.webs.com Mark N Starla Traina

    FBI
    Dumps SPLC & ADL

    MORE
    REALLY BAD NEWS for the ZIONNISTS:

    http://catholicism.org/tag/southern-poverty-law-center

    April 13, 2014

    • FBI unceremoniously jettisons SPLC and ADL as “RESOURCES” on
    HATE CRIMES.

    SPLC
    is RACIST: http://splclies.wordpress.com/

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) quietly dumped the
    Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and Anti-Defamation League (ADL),
    two highly prominent purveyors of hatred toward traditional Christian values
    and white Americans, as “resources” regarding “hate crimes,” according to the FBI’s official website.
    The move came in response to a stinging February 10, 2014 complaint sent to United
    States Attorney General Eric Holder and FBI Director James Comey from 14
    pro-family groups, spearheaded by the Family Research Council (FRC).

    The organizations requested the removal of the SPLC from the
    government website,
    as well as an end to FBI-touted partnerships with the leftwing political lobby
    and other bigoted groups, like the ADL, the
    National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and the National
    Organization for Women.

    FRC pointed out the intolerable inconsistency of the FBI’s promotion of the SPLC
    as a reliable public resource for information
    on “hate crimes,” when the latter is itself notorious for targeting certain
    classes of primarily conservative citizens with its
    venomous outrage and false statistics.

    They also noted the federal government’s own conclusion that the “hate map” posted on the SPLC’s website, which lists FRC and similar organizations
    as “hate groups” because of anti-homosexuality positions,
    was a contributory factor in a domestic terror
    attack on FRC offices by a homosexual activist.

    ZIONNIST OUTED: https://americanfreepress.net/?p=16654

    NATIONAL ASSOCIATION for the ADVANCEMENT of WHITE PEOPLE

  • AugustineThomas

    Yep. Pray to God they don’t label you a hate group so some deranged leftist will come after you..

  • Mys77

    I have looked everywhere for info about where and how the SPLC is funded. There is no way this is a non profit organization. Time for an IRS audit.