Energy & Environment

BULB Act Will Restore Incandescent Light Bulbs

How many federal bureaucrats does it take to screw in a light bulb?  None if that bulb is a traditional incandescent bulb.  That’s because back in 2007 my colleagues passed a law that effectively bans traditional incandescent light bulbs starting in 2012.

This light bulb-banning law was another one of those good intentions that some people don’t think is turning out so good.  They don’t like the light given off by the compact fluorescent light bulbs, which are being made to replace incandescent bulbs.  They say their wallets don’t like the new bulbs because they cost more, which makes saving money on energy a wash.  The EPA doesn’t like the new bulbs because the amount of mercury in one bulb is enough to contaminate up to 6,000 gallons of water beyond safe drinking levels.  Freedom Action, a political-advocacy group recently launched a campaign to repeal the ban on traditional incandescent bulbs.
 
The manufacturers of the new bulbs say they are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

BULB Act Solves Problem

The question is not whom to believe, the question I ask is why should a select few legislators in 2007 be able to tell hundreds of millions of Americans what light bulbs are best for them?  Why do we have a federal government so intent on taking away people’s choices and limiting their options? That’s not good for our country.

I think it’s fine if someone wants to fill his home or business with the light from the new bulbs.  I also think it is fine if someone wants to buy an old-fashioned bulb because it works better for him.  If left alone, the best bulb will win its rightful standing in the marketplace.

Last month I introduced the Better Use of Light Bulbs (BULB) Act (S. 395) that would let the light of the incandescent shine brightly once again.  My bill would repeal the standards that limit choice that Congress included in the 2007 energy law. It’s time the federal government starts worrying less about what light bulbs people buy and more about how it’s going fix the deficit, but that’s a topic for another time.

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  • http://twitter.com/ConstitutionTlk Rusty Turner

    I like the incandescent bulb, I have tried the mercury bulbs and found them wanting.

    The problem with introducing another act to nullify the previous act is that it puts another law on the books. Why not just repeal the previous law as a way of thinning out stupid laws.

  • lighthouse10

    I agree with Senator Enzi…

    The point is all light bulbs have their advantages -
    the “switch all your lights and save lots of money” campaigns are like
    saying “Eat only bananas and save lots of money!”

    It is indeed a “ban”:
    Yes, energy efficient halogen incandescent replacements are allowed, but
    still have some constructional and appearance differences, a whiter light output etc compared with regular bulbs, apart from
    costing much more for the small savings, which is why neither
    consumers or governments really like them, since they have been around
    for a while now without being sold much.

    No light bulbs should be banned:
    There is no present or future shortage of energy sources for electricity
    justifying telling what paying consumers can use,
    especially since the overall USA energy savings from light bulb regulations
    are less than 1% anyway,
    based on the US Dept of Energy’s own statistics ( http://ceolas.net/#li171x )
    -remember the politicians keep including non-incandescent street and
    industrial lighting in the usual high US usage percentages quoted.

    Much greater, and much more relevant, energy waste savings arise from effectively organized electricity generation and grid distribution,
    and from reducing the unnecessary use of appliances:
    rather than from stopping people in their choice of what appliance to use.

  • Leroy_Whitby

    I saw a piece that pointed out that the left outlawed the quintessential American invention: Thomas Alva Edison’s electric light bulb. I’m so for this bill. Thank you Mr. Enzi and you are in the right. I like the light bulb . . . it beats the heck out of mercury bulbs in every way that I care about, it is cheaper, better light and not toxic to me or my children. It is also my choice what to buy to put in my home for my use, not the government’s choice.

  • KnownUnknowns

    They’re going after George Bush’s curly-fries light bulb bill ????

    I suppose they’ll get to the war crimes stuff right after that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM24TLGFKU5NXK2C2C2WCLQQWE albert

    How about Buggy Whips? Can we have a big Govt. program to bring them back too? And I also want glass shampoo bottles and unchlotinated water. And while we are at it let’s get rid of flouride.

  • Leroy_Whitby

    And by Bush you mean Nancy Pelosi’s Congress and Reid’s Senate in 2007 as part of an 800 page energy bill, right ? Pelosi down, Reid to go.November 2012 . . . : )

  • ArtNYC

    South Carolina preparing to defy feds, protect right of citizens to buy standard incandescent light bulbs beyond 2012. See ConservativeStates.com

  • KnownUnknowns

    No, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid never committed any war crimes … like Bush did.

  • globalcrap

    More O Bogus and his socialist laws. Buy your communist bulbs from his friends China. Mercury filled . Break one in your house , run for your lives. Then again this O Bogus man can produce new jobs “bulb police”.

  • KnownUnknowns

    South Carolina has to first get off OIL LAMPS, before they even consider any kind of light bulb. Heck, they dont even have an elctric GRID yet !

  • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

    I may be way off but if I remember right unless previous law is found to be illegal you can’t just nullify/repeal it, you actually HAVE to do a secondary law to offset it.
    kind of stupid in my opinion.

  • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

    you mean like congress authorizing that war?
    idiot.

  • Martin Hale

    OK, it’s a small start. But what the @$^%& was the federal government doing in my purchase of lighting supplies in the first place? The presumption that how I light my home, my office or any other space is anyone’s business but my own is where this whole thing got off-track. It’s that insidious creep of government into the minutiae of daily life which has me much more concerned than the loss of incandescent lights.

  • george

    If it was up to the republicans we would still be using whale oil, and buring candles. Such sillyness. The Better Use of Light Bulbs (BULB) Act (S. 395). What a waste of time. Lets turn this statement around.

    It’s time politicians to start worrying less about what light bulbs people buy and more about how it’s going fix the deficit, but that’s a topic for another time.

    I am sure you can have iincandescent bulbs shipped to you from China or India if you are so concerned about the compact fluorescent light bulbs.

    Why not? Everything else is shipped to us.

  • dnha14

    The law BANS incandescent bulbs. Getting them from China or India would be illegal. We can just take all the burnt out CFL’s and break them in your yard, so you can have all the mercury. And I like candle light. It’s warm and romantic. And I don’t like killing whales. Here’s a quarter, go buy yourself a clue.

  • gjd3

    Don’t you know who was running Congress in 2007? It wasn’t GWB who wrote that invasive piece of garbage. Oh, wait, that’s not your intent here is it? You’re trying to hijack the thread to push another of your idiodic agendas. Go back to licking the heals of your feckless idol….

  • george

    If it was up to the republicans we would still be using whale oil, and buring candles. Such sillyness. The Better Use of Light Bulbs (BULB) Act (S. 395). What a waste of time. Lets turn this statement around.

  • HomesickExWasillan

    Great! Now, get the damn government out of my toilet!!!

  • KnownUnknowns

    Republicans..

    Partying like it’s 1399 !

  • tadcf

    But what about the fact that these bulbs save energy for America. I didn’t hear Republicans complaining when Reagan reduced the speed limit to 55 mph–and that was just because of a temporary shortage of oil. The banning of incandescent light bulbs is because of a permanent shortage of energy.

  • george

    You are a brave one challenging these folks. I mean it’s like talking to a wall.

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  • george

    Just go on the internet you dunce. Why would you take all you burnt out CFL’s and break it on my yard. You will expose yourself to the mercury you dingbat.

    incandescent bulbs Bulbs.com – Official Site
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    or

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  • Guest

    That’s a bright idea.

  • http://twitter.com/ConstitutionTlk Rusty Turner

    Yeah, I know. I just keep hoping for some kind of sanity out of the nuthouse we call our Government.

  • http://twitter.com/ConstitutionTlk Rusty Turner

    It’s called convenient amnesia. Fortunately it only attacks the liberal gene.

    Symptoms are;

    Extreme denial of any wrong doing on their part

    Shouting real loud when they are losing an argument

    And running away when shouting doesn’t work.

  • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

    :) like blood from a turnip isn’t it….

  • globalcrap

    Klown , unknown klown. They are trying to ruin America with their socialist agenda. Keeping the border wide open for O Bogus and his illegal alien friends for illegal votes. I buy my bulbs that are made in America. Not a socialist communist bulbs from an O Bogus wacko country.

  • KnownUnknowns

    based on lies and images of mushroom clouds.

    dickwad

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM24TLGFKU5NXK2C2C2WCLQQWE albert

    Talking to a wall is more productive. At least the wall stands there usefully. Unlike the Bozo’s who subscribe tot hsi web site. When they get back talk they run and hide, usually with Jay in Kansas.

    Because Jay wears ladies underpants!

  • reddarin

    No, you can repeal any law. Each Congress is not bound by the previous Congress.

    I think in this case the new law is needed because the whole old law is not being addressed just the light bulb stupidity.

  • george

    How about that. I like this site because unlike watching FOX news, you can at least answer back .

  • http://twitter.com/ConstitutionTlk Rusty Turner

    Hmmm…Nixon was President in 1973 when the speed limit was lowered to 55 MPH, he also had a dimwit controlled Congress;

    The count below identifies party affiliations at the beginning of the first session of this Congress, and includes members from vacancies and newly admitted states, when they were first seated. Changes resulting from subsequent replacements are shown below in the Changes in membership section.

    Senate

    Party standings on the opening day of the 92nd Congress
      54 Democratic Senators
      1 Independent Senator, caucusing with Democrats
      44 Republican Senators
      1 Conservative Senator, caucusing with Republicans
    ▪ Democratic: 54 (majority)
    ▪ Republican: 44
    ▪ Conservative: 1
    ▪ Independent: 1
    TOTAL members: 100

    House of Representatives

    House seats by party holding plurality in state
      80% Democratic
      80%+ Republican
      60%+ to 80% Democratic
      60%+ to 80% Republican
      up to 60% Democratic
      up to 60% Republican
    ▪ Democratic: 255 (58.6%)(majority)
    ▪ Republican: 180 (41.4%)
    TOTAL members: 435

    Ronald Reagan was the 40th President of the United States, from 1981-1989.

    This is another symptom of selective amnesia;

    When all else fails blame Reagan

  • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

    ok, I could not remember for sure

  • Jason Johnson

    This bill IS a small start as Mr. Hale says. Fedgov needs to butt out of our lives. we should be able to use any kind of light we want, drive what we want, and, if we’re so inclined, eat a big, juicy steak!

  • reddarin

    If you define brave as spouting off outright lies, half truths and leftist propaganda then yes sir! Brave!

  • http://twitter.com/ConstitutionTlk Rusty Turner

    “I think in this case the new law is needed because the whole old law is not being addressed just the light bulb stupidity.”

    Such a shame.

  • george

    As opposed to half-truths and right wingnut propaganda?

  • reddarin

    > it was up to the republicans we would still be using whale oil,

    What?? I thought the evil Republicans were free market nutjobs who fervently worship at the altar of Big Business.

    hmmm.

  • reddarin

    >How about Buggy Whips? Ca

    How astute. I was unaware that the Democrats had passed a law outlawing buggy whips. If they did then I am all for repealing it.

    >I also want glass shampoo

    Thanks to some sane Republicans you can if you want to. If it were up to the Democrats they’d make that choice for you.

    You seem to be much more comfortable with other people making choices for you.

  • Ol_Irish_Barrister

    I’m still waiting for some talented, conservative political cartoonists to draw a panel picturing Obama holding the “Obamacare” bill with one of those corkscrew lightbulbs over his head! Caption could be something like “Another not so bright idea!”

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/tm37MVwDr.jkJgKvFTNRks9oCU.CvB8-#93dd9 wearyconservative

    Restore or not; it’s all the same to me. There isn’t much I can do about most government control issues, but this is one I can and have. When the law banning incandescent bulbs was first discussed, I began keeping a log on how often I had to replace each bulb, in varying wattages, in my house. Over a period of time, I had a fair idea of the number of bulbs I’d need in the average year, and at this point, I have enough stockpiled to last approximately twenty years and am still adding more.

    No, this isn’t an earth shattering issue, but I’m so damned sick and tired of government rules and regulations, overbearing halfwits telling me what I can and can’t do, what I should eat and not eat, etc., that at least in this one instance, it does give me great pleasure to in essence, tell them to kiss my royal tush.

  • reddarin

    >It’s time politicians to start worrying less about what light bulbs people buy

    You are sort of dim there g.sherard. The BULB act is all about getting the politicians to stop worrying about light bulbs.

    >Why not?

    Because the current law BANS them. So, instead of fixing the stupidity in Congress your idea is for everyone that wants to be mercury free in their home to break the law.

    Typical leftist. If the law is inconvenient just ignore it. Obama comes by it honest that is for sure.

    Here is something to chew on when you get rec room privileges:

    The Over-Criminalization of America
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR1DjDzTR1A

  • george

    You mean the Grand Oil Party?

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  • reddarin

    >As opposed to half-truths and right wingnut propaganda?

    Uh no? So far Klowncho hasn’t spouted any right wingnut propaganda. And, I already said he was engaging in half truths.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    We just answered this idiot on another thread, yet he’s here prattling the same garbage.

  • dginga

    Homesick, if you want a government-approved toilet that actually WORKS without having to be flushed multiple times with each use, buy TOTO toilets! Sure, they’re from a Japanese company, but they flush the first time every time, they’re durable, they’re not outrageously expensive and they still comply with the stupid government regulations about toilets.

  • dginga

    There is NO permanent shortage of energy. Don’t know where you got THAT stupid idea. Unless you’re a liberal. We have plenty of opportunities to produce cheap energy in this country. The liberals and the environmental movement are the ones who delight in putting roadblocks in the way of us actually USING them. So use whichever lightbulbs make your liberal heart sing. I’m going to stick to incandescents and hopefully juice them with electricity from my local nuclear power plant.

  • globalcrap

    Klown , unknow Klown. Truth hurts doesn’t it ? You are a funny socialist klown who gives us many laughs . We appricate your stupity. We need some one who can make us laugh. Your Mr. O B ogus is a disaster , and with your socialist humor your a breath of fresh air that shows us Americans how you klowns think. God Bless.

  • ttgg

    I would like to know what would the EPA do to a private industrey if they produced a product with this much mercury in it. You can see GE and big goverment ( kickbacks) all over this. How many times has GE exzuctives been in the White House? Most land fills are located outside of citys and the people depend on wills for water, I say with in a few years this ground water will be cotaminted with mercury. These under ground rivers can run for miles carring this contamanation for miles. This saving of a few dollers will be very small to the cotamiation of our gournd water. The EPA and GE should be invesgated. The EPA should be defunded and did away with. They are the cause of the mass problem that is facing this country today with these non-officalls election dicisions. ( sixty radicals). I don’t need any comments about my spelling just read the message.

  • reddarin

    >But what about the fact that these bulbs save energy for America

    Do they?

    Here is an excellent web site that refutes the many claimed benefits of CFL that you won’t read because real information is antithetical to the Liberal kool-aid:

    http://www.richsoil.com/CFL-fluorescent-light-bulbs.jsp

    >Reagan reduced the speed limit to 55 mph

    If he had done that there would have been howls from all corners of America since he was still Governor of California.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Maximum_Speed_Law

    > The banning of incandescent light bulbs is because of a permanent shortage of energy.

    Really? You better let the press know because that is not the stated goal of the Act. Nor anything like that.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Independence_and_Security_Act_of_2007
    “to move the United States toward greater energy independence and security, to increase the production of clean renewable fuels, to protect consumers, to increase the efficiency of products, buildings, and vehicles, to promote research on and deploy greenhouse gas capture and storage options, and to improve the energy performance of the Federal Government, and for other purposes.”.

  • globalcrap

    What are you teaching at this high school ? Socialism , destroying America with your O Bogus way of thinking. Do you drive a car ? Are you allowed to turn your lights on ? Wake up enjoy life , and don’t be a stooge for Mr. O Bogus. Live a little.

  • george

    Just go to the internet and order a bunch of incandescent light bulbs. Stock up for as long as Glenn Beck says we have to live before Armageddon. Is not against the law yet. Its been since October 21, 1879 that inventor Thomas Edison created an incandescent light bulb. It’s time for a change.

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  • george

    That’s right.

    All the “isms” including capitalism.

    And all the Newt “isms” too.

    Don’t be a stooge for the Grand Oil Party.

  • reddarin

    >based on lies and images

    Worse still. Our only line of defense against an Evil Genius Yet Amazingly Stupid President did not perform due diligence before authorizing war.

  • Dustoff

    Reagan reduced the speed limit to 55 mph
    *******************

    You mean Nixon.

  • reddarin

    >You mean the Grand Oil Party?

    Well it isn’t the Grand Whale Oil Party is it?

  • Dustoff

    Thomas Edison created an incandescent light bulb. It’s time for a change.
    ***************************
    Then let the American people decide. Not some gov fool and most of all NOT you.
    If you think that way. Try Cuba.

  • george

    Yeah, let America decide. How do we decide on this.

    Like . Let’s have a special election on this. Let’s have a special election on everything.

    Look how you sound Dustoff.

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  • Dustoff

    Speaking of walls. I see your hero O-bummer broke his own law on going to war.

    (2008. Our Military should never be used to fight another countries civil war.)

  • george

    How about that.

  • Dustoff

    glass shampoo bottles
    ****************************
    Was replaced by what????? Yep oil. You know. That stuff you loons claim is bad.

  • reddarin

    >Its been since October 21, 1879…It’s time for a change

    Uh. Light bulbs have changed since 1879. They changed with innovations from the market and consumer demand.

    If cfl for home use was so great then the market would move towards that instead of them having to be propped up with Tax Dollar subsides and political intervention.

    We don’t hear much talk any more about mercury in fish. Why is that? Was that problem suddenly solved? Can’t be talking about mercury now that cfl bulbs are being pushed when they are a real danger to every household that uses them.

  • reddarin

    Excellent point dginga!

    The leftist create an energy crisis by choking the energy industry and then create a worse solution to address it with home use CFL bulbs.

  • ArtNYC

    South Carolina to lead way in resisting light bulb laws. See ConservativeStates dot com

  • Dustoff

    Yeah, let America decide. How do we decide on this.
    *********************************

    We buy what we like, if we don’t like it. The product fails and goes away. Really hard for you to see that?
    Can you say Buggy whips, American motors, Studebaker.

    The election we had was in NO-part for light bulbs.

    Granted. People like you are children and can’t even change your diapers without someone telling you how to do it.

  • Dustoff

    LOL………. lose the argument…
    So drop a cuss word. What a loon.

  • Concerned4America

    I agree with everything said but will point out that the fluorescent lamps we have used for as long as I can remember all contain mercury and most end up in the trash. Perhaps the mercury aspect is another example of EPA going wild with the if we can measure it, it is too much or if 1000 times a life time dose causes cancer in rats that are breed for their propensity to form tumors.

  • Dustoff

    Just think what happens when you go from a few hundred of these in the trash/landfills to ten of thousands.

  • ConcernedCitizenHilton

    Actually, that’s a great idea that’s been proposed many times, getting rid of fluoride, since it’s a toxic poison. You want to rinse with it, OK, but why ingest it on the off-chance it might do your teeth some good as it passes by them on it’s way to poisoning the rest of your body? There are many good products to handle that issue such as ‘Act’ fluoride rinse. The operative word is “Rinse”, you don’t swallow poison, and you don’t force people to do so and not tell them about the repercussions (or without their knowledge).

    However the other comments about buggy whips and glass shampoo bottles is shear stupidity. Nobody is clamoring for a return of these long dead changes except liberals “trying to make a point”. The reason they are no longer around is because they are no longer needed (or have been found to be less than safe. Freedom of choice means allowing a person to do stupid things and not trying to legislate stupidity. You don’t want to wear a motorcycle helmet, fine by me, but that also means that I don’t have to pay your medical bills due to your own stupidity. Unfortunately, that goes against the liberal collectivist thought.

    If I thought that liberals actually wanted these products, I would be the first to say bring them back, but they don’t actually want them. Like good little busy-bodys, they just want to tell everyone else what to buy.

  • planeboy

    Thats WHY GE makes them in China….no EPA…

  • planeboy

    Dim bulbs in Washington? Nah…

  • ConcernedCitizenHilton

    “Yeah, let America decide. How do we decide on this.”[?]

    You dunce. The people decide in the marketplace of ideas. If they like the idea, they support it through the purchasing of those products. If they don’t like it, the company goes bankrupt. That is, unless it is being propped up by government interference.

    Sheesh, your pretty ‘dim’ witted, huh? Maybe you can pick up a book or two while your at that High School event. Maybe something with “Economics 101″ in the title, or “Economics for Dummys”.

  • planeboy

    I think you might have missed EXs point….

  • reddarin

    Great point ConcernedCitizenHilton!

    Only a liberal would think the answer to a light bulb purchase is to hold an election and then let politicians make a decision for them in DC.

  • george

    I want to buy a car without airbags. Darn it.

  • planeboy

    Rusty sezzz…..When all else fails blame Reagan
    I guess the BUSH card is getting old and wrinkled…

  • george

    You mean like the right of woman to do decide what they want with their bodies – like say abortion? Oh no you love the government to interfere then. Or maybe let people decide if they want seat belts or air bags in their cars or helmets when driving on motorcycles? Or if they want lead in their paint. Or if they want insurance for their car or home? Let the people decide?

  • george

    It’s a great point Reddarin let the people decide.

  • george

    No just the grand Oil party.

  • reddarin

    There is no reason you shouldn’t be able to buy one without airbags.

    If the Government didn’t mandate it you probably could save a bit and buy a car without them. Of course, by now the free market would have made airbags so cheap that you wouldn’t be saving much instead of the $1500 to $2000 dollar cost they add today since they are mandated and there is little incentive to drive costs down. Federal monopolies do that.

    And of course there are the collateral consequences that libs never take into account. Repairs to the vehicle when airbags deploy can end up meaning that the whole vehicle is written off instead of just repaired.

    Seatbelt laws are the same way. Sounds great on paper but ends up just being an excuse for cops to hassle you and illegally stop you or a nice little ticket to generate funds for the city.

  • Dustoff

    g.sherard
    You mean like the right of woman to do decide what they want with their bodies – like say abortion?
    ***********************************************

    If you ever read many of the Rep’s. We could care less if you want to KILL a baby.
    Just PAY for it you own Damn-self. Instead of asking us to pay for your stupidly.

    But thanks for proving to all. Human life means nothing to you, except your own.

    Typical lib.

    See you and O-bummer do have one thing in common. (death)

  • reddarin

    >You mean like the right of woman to do decide what they want with their bodies

    Right up until that decision ends another human life. I don’t think women should have the right to choose to suck the brains out of a baby just as it is being born.

    Not many pro-lifers are in favor of saving the baby at the mother’s expense but that is far from where we are at in the abortion mills in America.

    Do you know who Margaret Sanger is and what she stood for? Chew on this next time you sit down to lunch with your black friends:

    http://blackgenocide.org/planned.html

    You wont hear that story from the Left. Open your eyes to how you are being controlled like a puppet.

    That is the problem any sane person has with the no consequences lifestyle the left pushes.

    >Or maybe let people decide if they want seat belts or air bags in their cars or helmets when driving on motorcycles?

    Yes! Right. Exactly. That isn’t the federal government’s job to make those decisions for citizens.

    > Or if they want lead in their paint.

    Yes. Let the market handle this.

    >Or if they want insurance for their car or home

    Of course, there is no federal or state mandate for home insurance. It is a condition of getting the loan. You can choose not to buy a house.

    Likewise there is no federal mandate for car insurance. It is a State law and varies by state. Some states do not require car insurance if you can prove financial responsibility.

  • reddarin

    >It’s a great point Reddarin let the people decide

    Of course, I mean lowercase ‘p’ as in people buying stuff. You mean uppercase ‘P’ as in The People as determined by their masters in Congress.

  • Truncheon

    tadcg drools idiotically: “I didn’t hear Republicans complaining when Reagan reduced the speed limit to 55 mph”

    That’s because he didn’t. Nixon did.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Maximum_Speed_Law

    “In the April 2, 1987 Surface Transportation and Uniform Relocation Assistance Act, Congress permitted states to raise speed limits to 65 mph (105 km/h) on rural Interstate highways”

    Let’s see, who was president in 1987…..

    “Congress lifted all federal speed limit controls in the November 28, 1995 National Highway Designation Act, returning all speed limit determination authority to the states.”

  • reddarin

    > unlike watching FOX news, you can at least answer back .

    And unlike Fox news when you do answer back you get challenged on your leftist ideals.

    If you stick around long enough your drone status may be endangered. There is a reason the Left tries so hard to drown out the free speech of the right. Leftist lies cannot stand the light of day.

    Be careful g.sherard

  • ConcernedCitizenHilton

    g.sherard said: “You mean like the right of woman to do decide what they want with their bodies – like say abortion?”

    That runs both ways dunce. It also means that you can’t use taxpayer dollars to support the killing of children by propping up Planned Abortion, err, I mean Planned Parenthood.

  • http://twitter.com/ConstitutionTlk Rusty Turner

    My response to tadcf was about his blaming Reagan for lowering the speed limit, his comment is reproduced here for your convenience.

    But what about the fact that these bulbs save energy for America. I didn’t hear Republicans complaining when Reagan reduced the speed limit to 55 mph–and that was just because of a temporary shortage of oil. The banning of incandescent light bulbs is because of a permanent shortage of energy.

    PS: Reagan was the left’s whipping boy long before Bush came along.

  • Truncheon

    DroolingIdiot blathers: “How do we decide on this.”

    Uh, you *buy* what you decide you want, you *don’t buy* what you decide you don’t. Suffer a recent brain injury?

    DroolingIdiot slobbers: “You mean like the right of woman to do decide what they want with their bodies”

    The baby is not their body, it’s inside their body. There’s two bodies involved. Suffer a brain injury recently?

    DroolingIdiot blathers: “If it was up to the republicans we would still be using whale oil”

    Mmmm hmmm….

    DroolingIdiot blathers: “You mean the Grand Oil Party?”

    You need to make up your mind, DroolingIdiot. Either we want to be using whale oil, or we want to be using petroleum…

    Suffer a brain injury recently?

  • Truncheon

    Have they defunded the war? Did they ever vote to defund the war? Did they approve the authorization for military action?

  • JoeTeaParty

    Just for the record, these new mercury laden bulbs are being tossed into the regular trash by folks who simply do not care. Of course, the great government idea was to have people take them to a local recycling center.

    Not happening people, especially in the large cities where the poor are congregated. They just throw ‘em in the garbage where they then head to the landfill and slowly poison our water killing our grandchildren.

    Oh the wonders of utopia.

  • JoeTeaParty

    Just for the record, these new mercury laden bulbs are being tossed into the regular trash by folks who simply do not care. Of course, the great government idea was to have people take them to a local recycling center.

    Not happening people, especially in the large cities where the poor are congregated. They just throw ‘em in the garbage where they then head to the landfill and slowly poison our water killing our grandchildren.

    Oh the wonders of utopia.

  • george

    Hello Truncheon,

    Have not heard from you for some time. I love your comment. “You *buy* what you decide you want, you *don’t buy”

    A real scholar.

  • reddarin

    >are being tossed into the regular

    And of course, in response to a government created crisis we’ll get … more government intrusion in the form of Garbage Police.

  • BMF

    The jury is still out, but there is growing evidence that like Ethanol, energy savings using CFLs may be more wishful thinking than reality.

    Further below is the governments Energy Star guidelines for disposing of and cleaning up CFL bulbs.

    Although CFLs are touted as cost saving and reduce consumption of energy, the costs savings do not include disposal or cleanup. The perferred method of disposal is to take the bulb to a certified facility. That costs time, gas, and it’s inconvenient. The costs are small, but so are the savings. The disposal instructions do not address CFLs that break on rugs and other places where a wet paper towel will not work. Remember, you are not supposed to vaccuum it either. And it warns you to never send these bulbs to a facility that incerated garbage. I don’t know about you, but most people have no idea how their garbage is disposed of after it’s collected. I presume mine goes to a landfill, but I don’t know that as a fact.

    On top of that, I’ve read recent (last few days) articles on the concerns of garbage collectors who may be exposed to broken CFL bulbs on a daily basis as more come into use. There is also a growing concern about what happens when hundreds of millions of these broken bulbs end up in landfills and the mercury eventually leaches back into the water supply.

    The take-back programs mentioned below require some costs to collect and properly dispose of used/broken CFLs. My guess is they will refuse to accept broken CFL bulbs, but maybe not. And there is a cost associated with take back programs collecting hundreds of millions of CLF bulbs and disposing of them in terms of the people, space, handling, and transportation in that process.

    I don’t know if CFLs actually do save anything. The costs to dispose of them will be returned to the consumer in higher collection fees, increased health care coverage for garbage collectors, disposal costs, etc.

    I’m skeptical about how long the CFL bulbs last as well. Mine don’t seem to last longer than incandesent bulbs. I would typically replace 5-6 incandesant bulbs a year in my house. I replaced three CFLs last year, but I only have about half the lamps using them.

    As far as saving energy, I don’t know about that either. It takes more energy to produce, a CFL bulb than an incandesent one. It takes more energy to collect burned out CFLs, it takes more energy to dispose of a CFL, it takes more energy to clean up a broken CFL, and as hundreds of millions of CFLs end up in landfills, what then?

    I don’t know how to calculate those additional costs and I don’t think the CFL lobby wants to go there. I don’t think anyone knows if there are any real verifiable savings.

    Below is what Energy Star recommends for disposal and cleanup of CFLs. Or read it for yourself at http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/promotions/change_light/downloads/Fact_Sheet_Mercury.pdf.

    Follow these guidelines to dispose your CFL properly:

    • Like paint, batteries, thermostats, and other hazardous household items, CFLs should be disposed of properly. Do not throw CFLs away in your household garbage if better disposal options exist. To find out what to do first check the following website: where you can find disposal options by using your zip code or by calling 1-877-EARTH911 for local disposal options. Another option is to check directly with your local waste management agency for recycling options and disposal guidelines in your community. Additional information is available at . Finally, IKEA stores take back used CFLs, and other retailers are currently exploring take- back programs.

    • If your local waste management agency offers no other disposal options except your household garbage, place the CFL in a plastic bag and seal it before putting it in the trash. If your waste agency incinerates its garbage, you should search a wider geographic area for proper disposal options. Never send a CFL or other mercury-containing product to an incinerator.

    • ENERGY STAR qualified CFLs have a two-year warranty. If the bulb fails within the warranty period, return it to your retailer.

    What should I do if a CFL breaks?

    Because there is such a small amount of mercury in CFLs, your greatest risk if a bulb breaks is getting cut from glass shards. Research indicates that there is no immediate health risk to you or your family should a bulb break and it’s cleaned up properly. You can minimize any risks by following these proper clean-up and disposal guidelines:

    • Sweep up — don’t vacuum — all of the glass fragments and fine particles.

    • Place broken pieces in a sealed plastic bag and wipe the area with a damp paper towel to pick up any stray shards of glass or fine particles. Put the used towel in the plastic bag as well.

    • If weather permits, open windows to allow the room to ventilate.

  • Dustoff

    BINGO, you win the prize.

  • george

    Oh you love that sh.t using tax dollars you dingbat.

  • Leroy_Whitby

    No one is going to dispose of these bulbs in a special way. They will just put them in the trash. It’s a monstrous policy. Horrifying. I don’t understand the aims of the government.

  • chesterarthur

    The fact is,if you leave the governance up to the statist,everything is decided for you,like air bags that killed more kids in the 1990′s than school shootings.I rebuild old cars to avoid the airbags,but coming on a website comments section just exposes you to windbags.Statist windbags that think the government should make your decisions for you.

  • http://poorwilber.blogspot.com Poor Wilber

    this was signed into law by the “Compassionate Conservative”, George W. Bush. This is why we don’t need another RINO in the WH. RINOs have the ability to build consensus with democrats to do very stupid things to us…..i.e. immigration reform, campaign reform, medicare part B, and growing the Depart of dis-Education.

  • http://poorwilber.blogspot.com Poor Wilber

    In addition to making you buy more expensive light bulbs, the Democrats and RINOs want to tax you on how many miles you drive.

    Who do these people serve? Certainly not the American people.

  • Sweetrae aka: LeAnn

    I’m with you on that. If I hear a GOP candidate mention “reaching across the aisle” I’m am going to do eveything in my power to make sure that person doesn’t get nominated. Instead of allowing MSLSD and Communist News Network to pick the GOP candidate, we need to throw the RINO’s out period. Because of Bendict McCain we have Valdimeir Obama.

  • Former Nevadan

    Not only do they operate dim and dangerous (the bulbs, I mean, though the politicians fall under that description), but, when the electricity supply is unreliable, or “browned out” with low voltage, they seem to absorb light. I know it’s just an illusion, but, if you’ve ever walked down a fluorescent-equipped hallway in a 3rd-world country, you smell hot insulation, and can’t see for crap, even though you recognize the tubes’ feeble glow.

    This is what “they” have in mind for us. At least with incandescents, you can fiddle about with the wattage a bit, and maybe find something that shines @ 80 VAC. Fluorescents can’t light up @ low volts.

  • reddarin

    >”reaching across the aisle”

    Funny how we haven’t heard that platitude from the talking heads for 3 years. I’m sure it will once again be in full time use in 2012.

  • A_Proud_Infidel

    Yes, MORE GOVERNMENT REGULATION, something that makes liberals drool and slobber!

  • Billtexas

    And how many people obeyed the 55 mph speed limit? Out there in West Texas, New Mexico, and points west, not very many. Add to that the number who just plain died of boredom.

  • Billtexas

    Speaking of toilets, have you heard about the dingbat mayor of Omaha who wants the Feds to implement a 10 cent tax on each roll of toilet paper sold in the U.S.?

    Since taxes by there very nature decrease the very activity they tax, can you imagine what will happen if the Congress is insane to pass this tax? Nature still has to take it’s course, but there will be a reduction in toilet paper use. With the resultant stink that will raise, think of all the other products that will come on the market to clean up the mess. The tax revenues won’t be realized, the toilet paper industry will be wrecked, but other industries will rise. But most likely, the stench of this stupid idea will be flushed down the crapper of dumb ideas.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VF2EJZPEDUYL6HQW52DE4HDAUQ CodeMonkey

    Another issue with fluorescents is that most don’t work on dimmers, and can actually be a fire hazard if dimmed. You can get dimmable fluorescents, but they cause even more. And I’ve read that some older dimming circuits aren’t compatible with modern compact fluorescents, so there’s another expense to upgrade those.

    Also, many people, including me, feel like you don’t have to worry as much about turning off fluorescents since they cost less. So the savings don’t turn out to be very much in the real world.

  • selfevidenttruths

    Light bulb coercion, grocery bag infringement, toilet bowl trespassing, calories on menus compulsion, toys with burgers prohibition; none of these by themselves rushes us down the road to serfdom. Add them to the thousands of other examples that are known and the tens of thousands bureaucrats quietly impose on us every year and serfdom is where we are surely headed, unless the people put a stop to it. James Madison said, “I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” If the people do not fight every instance of these encroachments, the people are doomed to serfdom.

  • dave413

    “Speaking of toilets, have you heard about the dingbat mayor of Omaha who wants the Feds to implement a 10 cent tax on each roll of toilet paper sold in the U.S.?”

    OMG, Sheryl Crow will save a FORTUNE if that happens! LOL

  • siridh

    The people that passed this law are certainly dim bulbs — we replace perfectly good, safe bulbs to save a few watts, and replace them with something that’s dangerous to the environment. Good work.

  • Leroy_Whitby

    The problem is these are monster bills. The bill outlawing the incandescent bulb was an 800 page energy bill. Congress should vote on 1 thing at a time rather than pack these bills so full no one knows what they are voting on.

  • planeboy

    Its like the HUGH stink coming from S.F. because the sewer system was not designed for 1.5 gpf toilets…

  • Leroy_Whitby

    Given mercury contamination of groundwater wouldn’t it make more sense to outlaw these bulbs, or confine them to industrial use with some regulation, than have them put in the trash? Because people will put them in the trash. Some just won’t care at all, some will feel that if the government makes me use them, the government can clean up the mess, others will even like the idea of poisoning the water (humans being perverse), others will be rushed (just this once, this one day), others won’t know where the recylcing center is. It’s an insane policy.

  • reddarin

    >with some regulation,

    All good points Leroy.

    This is also yet another backdoor criminalization of citizens. You can bet that there are laws against polluting that can, and will, be used at some point in the future for the soccer mom that throws away a curly light bulb.

  • KnownUnknowns

    not true. no one has yet thrown any of those out because they last for decades.

    the Bush administration only started forcing people to use them in 2007.

  • reddarin

    >OMG, Sheryl Crow will save a FORTUNE if that happens!

    haha. Maybe she’ll do her patriotic leftist duty and use more tp. That will make everyone around her a lot happier even if they still refuse to shake hands with her.

  • JMARKJ

    I agree w/ Freedom Action. They need to repeal the ban.

  • Bucksergeant

    It is only the Republicans that are required to “reach across” and it is only bipartisan when the weak a$$ Republicans cave in to the left…they should be celebrating the fact that they are now allowed to even vote…we should be paying back Botox for all the grinding down she put the Republicans through…

  • Bucksergeant

    2012…….

  • mocanic

    I have been stocking up on incandesent bulbs for over a year now. WHY? Because they are made in the U.S. Compact floresents are made in China. And if I can’t get regular bulbs, I will go LED.

  • Billtexas

    Au contraire, I’ve had to dispose of several. The bulbs I placed in my garage couldn’t stand up to the vibration of the garage door opener, big a big waste of money. The old incandescent bulbs lasted much longer and only went bad because my daughter lost control of her volleyball. Then there are the bulbs that take around 2 to 3 minutes to fully illuminate, another waste of money.

    Then you have the added problem of the CFL’s contributing to accelerated fading of framed items you may have on the wall.

    I’ve used a couple of the bulbs that look like the old style bulbs for target practice; so far the dog is still alive. But I’m just a cantankerous old cuss.

  • Billtexas

    Well now that I think on it, she probably has some rather nice nails (or maybe not since she plays a guitar), if she only uses one or two sheets and follows the old C-ration rule of poking your finger through the paper, she should be able to get a good scratch in as well.

    Sorry for the run on sentence.

  • Billtexas

    I especially like the suggestion to sweep the glass instead of vacuuming. How many times have you ever swept of glass only to cut your foot later on a missed piece of glass?

  • Billtexas

    Proposing taxing the miles you drive, proposing taxing toilet paper, proposing taxes on CO2 (breathing). Next they’ll estimate how many times a day we crap, pee, have intercourse, etc. and try to tax that too.

  • reddarin

    > the old C-ration rule of poking your finger through the paper

    LOL!

  • reddarin

    >I especially like the suggestion to sweep the glass

    It sure fits the overall agenda. I am surprised there aren’t instructions on gathering brush and a straight stick to create your own broom to sweep with for minimum environmental impact. :p

  • reddarin

    >no one has yet thrown any of those out because they last for decades

    No one can be stupid enough to actually believe that so I guess even klowncho chokes on the kool-aid occasionally.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KH3IWR3PWZFVET6CAGN2OSHWVU lily

    Grow up Martin. The way you light your home IS other people’s business besides your own. Especially when we (the rest of the tax payers) are paying the cost of inefficiency and waste because of you. Well gee, if I want to use lead paint in my home why shouldn’t I? Whose businsess is it if I dont want to insulate my home? Wah wah wah! Because not everything people like to do is good for themselves or the country, and there are building codes to protect homeowners from their own stupid ideas. This is just another example. Things have to be phased out when they waste energy and there are better, more efficient materials to use.
    It’s not a constitutional issue. Just put on some big boy pants and let the bulbs go.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KH3IWR3PWZFVET6CAGN2OSHWVU lily

    Thomas Edison did not invent the light bulb. The bulb and filament was invented by an Englishman, Humphrey Davy, and the AC current system that exists in homes today was developed and perfected by Nikola Tesla, a Croatian. The only thing Edison did was hire people to work for him then patented their ideas. How quintessentially American is it now?

  • reddarin

    >Thomas Edison did not invent the light bulb

    You need help with reading comprehension lily:

    “I saw a piece that pointed out that the left outlawed the quintessential American invention: Thomas Alva Edison’s electric light bulb.”

    You’ll note the possessive ‘Edison’s electric light bulb’ which indicates there were other possible bulbs around. Good as they might have been they failed to achieve the success that Edison made a reality.

    >The bulb and filament was invented by an Englishman, Humphrey Davy,

    Wrong again:

    http://www.unmuseum.org/lightbulb.htm
    “Davy’s lamp produced its illumination by creating a blinding electric spark between two charcoal rods. This device, known as an “arc lamp,” was impractical for most uses”

    No element there. And an invention that was useless for practical application.

    Next will you tell us the the phone was really invented by the chap that ran string between two cans and that all later improvements on the idea cannot be termed inventions?

    >Nikola Tesla, a Croatia

    Some how I don’t think you will find a kindred spirit in America hating and bashing with Tesla:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
    “On 30 July 1891, he became a naturalized citizen of the United States at the age of 35″

    >The only thing Edison did was hire people to work for him then patented their ideas.

    Uh huh. Some how it escapes all historical note that he cheated 1100 inventors of credit and hired thousands more with the intent of cheating them of their due too.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Edison
    “Edison is the third most prolific inventor in history, holding 1,093 US patents in his name, as well as many patents in the United Kingdom, France, and Germany.”

    Head back on over to the HuffPo lily. They’ll love you over there.

  • IrishEi

    Sorry Lily, but you’re dead wrong. First, YOU are not paying for Martin’s “inefficient” light bulbs, Martin is. Second, it is none of your damned business what type of bulb anyone uses.

    Why don’t you just put on some Depends and leave the rest of us alone?

  • sirgareth

    You would be better served by stocking up on bullets; its not your light bulbs that they ultimately want but your liberty.

    As the harness is lovingly attached, see no big fuss.

  • sirgareth

    Be assured that I am one of them, I really do enjoy “hurting the earth” by preserving my own liberty.

    We need to have “liberty day” in which everyone must do something to harm the earth in the name of liberty.

  • Leroy_Whitby

    Uh . . . right! /sarc”The first electric light was made in 1800 by Humphry Davy, an English scientist. He experimented with electricity and invented an electric battery. When he connected wires to his battery and a piece of carbon, the carbon glowed, producing light. This is called an electric arc.Much later, in 1860, the English physicist Sir Joseph Wilson Swan (1828-1914) was determined to devise a practical, long-lasting electric light. He found that a carbon paper filament worked well, but burned up quickly. In 1878, he demonstrated his new electric lamps in Newcastle, England.In 1877, the American Charles Francis Brush manufactured some carbon arcs to light a public square in Cleveland, Ohio, USA. These arcs were used on a few streets, in a few large office buildings, and even some stores. Electric lights were only used by a few people.The inventor Thomas Alva Edison (in the USA) experimented with thousands of different filaments to find just the right materials to glow well and be long-lasting. In 1879, Edison discovered that a carbon filament in an oxygen-free bulb glowed but did not burn up for 40 hours. Edison eventually produced a bulb that could glow for over 1500 hours.”So, Edison invented a light bulb that worked. Edison’s light bulb was quintessentially American, indeed.http://www.enchantedlearning.c

  • Leroy_Whitby

    An advantage of this is that if they actually debated one thing at a time and voted on one thing then they would have to take responsablity for their vote on that matter rather than picking some other aspect of the bill to talk about.

    A second advantage is that they would never be able to vote on as many things, so government would be smaller.

  • http://profiles.google.com/joank48 Joan Kark

    I’ve been using CFLs for years (since 1994) and they do save a tremendous amount of energy (7 watts replacing 40 watt bulbs, 13 watt CFL replacing 60 watt). I’m happy to do this little part to make our country more energy independent and save money at the same time. Now, I’m excited about using more LEDs which save even more (6 watt strand of bulbs replacing three 60 watt reflector bulbs in track lighting). Perhaps Home Depot or other big box store needs to do some informational seminars for you all! And, you might feel good about doing something good for your country.

  • Econoranter

    Why do othewise sane Republicans still feel it necessary to praise George W? In my opinion he is one of the three worst Republican presidents ever; along with Nixon and Hoover. Wars; pointless and unending; now setting the style of Obama’s new war. Economy; Bailout King, bigger government and on and on. Remember his “New Tone,” Islam a “Religion of Peace,” Teddy Kennedy’s “Education Bill” he pushed onto the people; the border guards his buddy threw in jail. Until Obama the worst president since Nixon. Why not call a spade a spade here? Who we foolin’?

  • http://twitter.com/tejasatawane Tejas Atawane

    reddarin and all incandescent defendants watch this. If you take the facts stated in this video at face value – CFL definitely seems the lesser of the two evils.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA2E14uKyZY

    In addition please note what the “Energy Independence and Security Act (EISA) is. Among other things, EISA requires that, starting in 2012, regular light bulbs use 25% to 30% less energy than the inefficient old incandescent light bulb that dates back 125 years. The standards are phased in: the second phase goes into effect by 2020 and will require that new light bulbs use about 65% less energy than today’s standard bulb.” Which basically means the call is for more energy efficient lights – incandescent or CFLs!
    Source: http://www.nwenergy.org/news/dim-bulb-act-looms-in-congress/

    In conclusion, CFLs pollute is an incorrect argument in my opinion, incandescents pollute too and more at that. However, Congress interfering in personal matters is another debate.

  • reddarin

    Part 1:

    >reddarin and all incandescent defendants watch this

    I did. My response:

    He is a liberal. Anything a lib says must be examined carefully for half truths, omissions and flat out lies. I know poop head is a lib because of his cute graphic for ‘conservative math’.

    I’ll break it up over a few posts so I don’t have one long monster post.

    The whole premise of the superiority of the CFL is lifespan of the CFL versus an incandescent bulb. It is the lynch pin. And it is a faulty one. Every single point he makes relies on 10,000 service hours.

    He also omits a very serious issue – really a deal breaker – with CFL bulbs – breaking them in use, high in the air where maximum mercury contamination is likely. I don’t know how his house is set up but here we have most light fixtures up high.

    He completely fails to address the problem of a CFL bulb breaking in a home. Particularly when installed, say, over your bed.

    What the EPA used to say about a CFL that broke and rained down on your $150 comforter?

    Throw away all clothing or bedding that comes into direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from a CFL. Do not wash it, as fragments may contaminate the washing machine and pollute sewage water.

    They have expunged that part from their clean up guidelines. They used to have a clothing and bedding section. Gone.

    Jesus Christ.

    Do you get that?!? They removed that part of the clean up!! Not because mercury is suddenly safe.

    What is left behind is still pretty awful. You cannot vacuum up a broken CFL safely. You must turn off your central air for several hours! God forbid you break a bulb at noon in Texas in mid August.

    Additionally, you have to somehow remember the spot where the bulb debris was and repeat the same thing for the next 7 times you vacuum. Turn off Central Air. Hold your breath while vacuuming. Keep animals out of the room. Send the baby to stay with your mother. Carefully put vacuum bag in a plastic bag and rush to hazmat facility.

    I guess if you use a bagless vacuum cleaner you have to throw it away. You’d have to throw away the hepa filter in it and all other filter material and buy new ones at least. Funny how they don’t mention bagless vacuums.

    You aren’t supposed to wash stuff that is directly exposed to mercury so I don’t see how you’d properly clean the receptacle that bagless units use.

    This ‘disappearing’ isn’t unique to this one issue either. Liberals are constantly trying to redact history to suit today’s message. It is one of the reasons I have a hard time understanding how any thinking person can be a liberal.

    Did you know that the UN, that august body, predicted 50 million ‘climate refugees’ in 2010 from raising waters due to glacier melt? No? Well good luck trying to find that document on their web site. It is gone.

  • reddarin

    Part 2:

    Lifespans of the CFL.

    Were you aware that CFL’s require fixtures rated for CFL bulbs? No? Huh.

    Using unrated fixtures reduces the lifespan of these bulbs. Not only that, enclosed fixtures like the ones with pretty glass globes greatly reduce CFL lifespans because of heat buildup.

    This is interesting, from a site called Earth Easy – solutions for sustainable living:

    We have discontinued sales of CFL bulbs because we are concerned about the inconsistent quality standards among manufacturers, and the use of mercury in these bulbs. The rapid development of LED bulb technology is bringing newer LED bulbs to the marketplace which are safer, longer lasting and more energy efficient than today’s CFL bulbs.

    This part I won’t bother trying to paraphrase because the guy says it so well:

    Compact fluorescent bulbs are designed to be on for extended periods of time to meet their rated life — I’m talking 4 hours, continuously.  If you only leave one on for an hour, the rated life drops by 20% and as much as 50%.  If you cycle it on and off like most of us do in our homes, you’ve reduced the rated life by 70% – 85%! So, for the example the EPA uses in the graph above, an 8,000 hour CFL would now only last 1,200 hours.  You’re now down in the range of many incandescent bulbs rated life.

    So. Now we must undo decades of government propaganda that has conditioned everyone to turn off lights when they leave a room.

  • reddarin

    Part 3:

    He did the math on coal usage and came up with 23kg of coal burning for the CFL and 106kg for the normal bulb.

    But the real lifespan of a CFL in a home is a lot closer to the 1000 hours of a normal bulb (that carries no risk of mercury contamination).

    So. The CFL will require 230kg of coal per replacement. Twice that of the normal, mercury free bulb.

  • reddarin

    Part 4:

    A CFL bulb takes 16 times as much energy to produce!

    An International Association for Energy-Efficient Lighting (IAEEL) study conducted in Denmark, explored some carbon footprint factors, but not all, showing it took 1.8 Kwh of electricity to assemble a CFL compared to 0.11 Kwh to assemble an incandescent bulb.  That means it took 16 times more energy to produce a CFL. The study did not include the fact that a CFL is much heavier and is more dangerous to handle, and will thus cost more to package, to ship, and to sell.

  • http://twitter.com/tejasatawane Tejas Atawane

    hey reddarin… you’ve obviously thought much deeper on this issue than I had. I’m with you.

  • reddarin

    Thanks :)

    I’m glad you posted, though, because I forgot one other very important thing about that video that you posted.

    The guy mentioned that we get 40% of our electricity from coal.

    Then, when he runs the numbers on coal related mercury he drops the 40% part.

    In other words, per bulb an incandescent can only be responsible for 40% of the coal related mercury.

    That is about 42kg instead of 106kg since only 40% of the bulbs are powered by coal.

    That makes CFL’s that much more of a menace to society and mother earth.

  • buy_american_or_else

    If the BULB Act is passed, it would be yet another fine example of the stupidity of allowing lawyers, primarily, to make key decisions for the country.  Whether we, yes those of us who reside in the United States, like it or not, we must stop wasting energy … as pretty soon we will not be able to afford our lifestyles any longer.  Every industrialized nation on this planet is moving forward to implementing efficient LED Light Bulbs in order to use less energy as a country  (meaning using less coal, nuclear power, and the such…)    Yet, here in the U.S. we are taking a step backwards to re-introducing the inefficiency of the “Incandescent Bulb”.   Wow, unbelievable …. we are the laughing stock of the industrialized world…  The interesting part is:  In a few years, all of you that are complaining about the new and efficient Light Bulb technologies and how expensive they are, will be forced to by exactly that Light Bulb technology from  “who else, but the Chinese” who are busy at work refining the LED technology…. because, just in case you have not noticed, the US currently produces an insignificant amount of light bulbs, they are mostly imported from our friendly Comrades the Communist Chinese …  Doesn’t any one think that instead of complaining, we should be embracing these efficient technologies and making sure that WE, the U.S. workers, will be the ones producing the final products here in the U.S. so we can support of own labor force…?  Hello..?  anyone out there lost their job recently to our “friendly” “free-trade” partners …?    Wake up people…  this BULB Act is simply stupid and not good for our own sake as a nation … stop complaining about the government telling you what to do… realize that we as a nation face stiff and very able competition that wants to simply destroy us… embrace the LED Bulb and lets re-fine the technology as it is the future of lighting whether we like it or not….  

  • reddarin

    >stop complaining about the government telling you what to do

    You are free to do as you are told.

    Me? I believe that I’ll stick with the Constitution and a limited government that cannot order me to buy anything, light bulb health insurance or whatever.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RBJVHTSXUISC37JLIKZASBZ3VA Douglas

    It is everyones business what kind of light bulb someone uses, unless you think it would be ok for Bill Gates to buy up billions of gallons of oil and just set it on fire to watch it burn . one must be one of those idiots that think energy is in unlimited supply.