PBS: More Christian Terrorists Than Muslim Terrorists

PBS’s Tavis Smiley recently claimed that “every single day in this country” Christians commit terrorist acts. Interviewing the heroic ex-Muslim freedom fighter Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Smiley repeated common leftist dogmas about how Christian terrorists are more numerous and violent than Muslim terrorists, and have committed more terrorist acts inside the U.S. than Muslims have. Smiley’s views are silly, but they’re also ultimately misleading and dangerous, as they divert attention from the genuine threat from Islamic jihadists and, by sapping our civilizational self-confidence, weaken our ability and will to resist those jihadists.

On the show, Hirsi Ali was speaking about Maj. Nidal Hasan, the Islamic jihadist and U.S. Army psychologist who, shouting “Allahu akbar,” murdered 13 people at Fort Hood last November; and about Faisal Shahzad, the jihadist with ties to the Pakistani Taliban, who attempted to set off a car bomb in Times Square just weeks ago. “Somehow,” said Hirsi Ali, “the idea got into their minds that to kill other people is a great thing to do and that they would be rewarded in the hereafter.”
Actually, there is no mystery about how they got this idea. The Koran guarantees Paradise to those who “kill and are killed” for Allah (9:111). Recruiters for suicide bombings the world over use this verse to promise Muslims troubled by a guilty conscience that they can be free of fears of hell if they kill some infidels and die in the process. But instead of asking Hirsi Ali to elucidate the motivations of such people, Smiley played the moral equivalence card, asserting: “Christians do that every single day in this country.”
Hirsi Ali, an atheist, but realistic and clear-eyed enough not to fall for Smiley’s moral-equivalence con job, was incredulous, and asked Smiley: “Do they blow people up?”
Smiley plowed doggedly ahead into Rosie (“Radical Christianity is just as dangerous as radical Islam”) O’Donnell fantasyland: “Yes. Oh, Christians, every day, people walk into post offices, they walk into schools, that’s what Columbine is — I could do this all day long. There are so many more examples of Christians — and I happen to be a Christian. That’s back to this notion of your idealizing Christianity in my mind, to my read. There are so many more examples, Ayaan, of Christians who do that than you could ever give me examples of Muslims who have done that inside this country, where you live and work.”
Smiley, like so many others, is ignorant of or indifferent to the key distinction here: that neither the Columbine killers nor any other mass murderer that he could invoke, even if they come from a Christian background, were motivated to kill by Christian texts and teachings. Islamic jihadists, in contrast, invoke Islamic texts and teachings both to justify their actions and make recruits among peaceful Muslims. What’s more, while Islamic authorities worldwide have condemned “terrorism,” they have generally done so in wordings so full of loopholes as to amount to no condemnation at all. For example, the Fiqh Council of North America, an assembly of top Islamic scholars, condemned attacks on “innocent civilians.”
That sounds great until you realize that it is common in Islamic theology to condemn all non-Muslims as guilty for their rejection of the Koran and Muhammad. Islamic clerics have said openly that no non-Muslim is innocent. So a condemnation of the killing of “innocent civilians” does nothing to deter jihadists from killing non-Muslims.
Tavis Smiley should know this. He should be telling his audience this, so they can understand what we’re up against. But if he dropped his witless moral equivalence and started telling the truth about jihad, he wouldn’t be invited to the best parties – and we can’t have that, now, can we?

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KVLTUTXGVORCKUJQQY76VORTAM Sanguinus

    and the bible condemns all non-jews OT and non-christians NT, so there really isn’t a difference, they’re all violent blood soaked religions

  • What__ever

    You are missing the point, there is a difference, the Bible doesn’t read that you should kill non-Jews and non-Christians. You should try to convert them to Christianity, but if they don’t, you aren’t commanded to kill them.

  • Guest

    There’s another difference as well. Those who are condemned are condemned by God in the afterlife. Christianity doesn’t teach that we are to kill others. It teaches that we are to share the good news of an eternal life with God and respect the individual to choose, knowing that we all face the concequences of our choices after death.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2KAIVYMJ3QXSUDTHHLWKS5X7PU SuperJ

     What about the crusades? And the burning of Jews alive? Both of our religions have had violent pasts, not just Islam.  In the modern world there are a lot more violent people calling themselves muslims but the crusades killed way more people than both 9/11 and the war on terror combined.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Garrett-Skindell/100001251639950 Garrett Skindell

    like so many others, is ignorant of or indifferent to the key
    distinction here: that neither the Columbine killers nor any other mass
    murderer that he could invoke, even if they come from a Christian
    background, were motivated to kill by Christian texts and teachings….”

    uhm… what about http://www.armypfgod.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/jahanzeb.hussain.qureshi Jáhánzěb Hųşşáin Qųrěşhi

    What the hell is this? :D I’m really Shocked to seee these false Accusations On ISLAMIC TEXTS.

    Islam never has encouraged people to kill the innocent people, if this was the case, then what the hell are other Muslims doing in their countries living peacefully? Don’t we want HEAVEN? If We were rewarded HEAVEN for killing people who are non-muslims, then each and every Muslim would have been killing every other non-muslim they see, Think LOGICALLY.
    Islam teaches us PEACE, And SUICIDE IS HARAM, so Blowing Up yourselves and others don’t give you HEAVEN, But It TAKES YOU TO HELL DIRECTLY…..

    If MUSLIMS were given Heaven on killing you people then, I wouldnt have been sitting here and commenting, I would rather be planning to blow you people off, not only me, but every Muslim. But this is not the case, FIGHTING IN THE WAY OF ALLAH means, DEFENDING HIS PEOPLE IF OTHERS ATTACK THEM, it doesnt mean ATTACKING OTHER NON_MUSLIMS FOR NO REASON>

  • http://www.facebook.com/mintee.calamazoo Mintee Calamazoo

    Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. matt 10:34

  • http://www.facebook.com/mintee.calamazoo Mintee Calamazoo

    US war on terror has killed average 280,000 innocent non terrorist civilians.. there are only about 18,000 islamic terrorists (according to CIA average polls).. who are the real terrorists now.. this is modern times, not crusaide times

  • Les Pane

    “sapping our civilizational self-confidence,”

    And also out precious bodily fluids.

  • Hugh Manatee

    Does this article link to itself?

  • Linda G. Richard

    I hope by now you have noticed that the military does not consider Nidal Hasan’s shooting spree an act of terrorism. It’s on my site.. it was in the news a couple of weeks ago, it should be easy to find.

  • PV Beveren

    Hey Abe, do you see Christians actually doing these acts. And quit quoting Old Test. The New Test has replaced it long ago.

  • Jason Johnson

    This article is proof that the Loony Left is in cahoots with the Muzzies.

  • John Minnick

    Abe, if you had any REAL knowledge of the Bible, you would know that Christians follow the New Testament (which, BTW, begins with the book of Acts, and not the Book of Matthew, as is widely believed). The Old Testament is/was for the servants of God. The New Testament, on the other hand, is for the CHILDREN of God, which is what Christians are. In addition, you had to resort to going back thousands of years, to try and prove a point-even though your “point” has been proven irrelevant, and patently false, also for thousands of years! You are in dire need of a class in reading and comprehension 101! I suggest you do that, post haste-before you open your mouth again, and prove you’re an even bigger fool than we originally thought!

  • Greyguy

    Maybe we do not want the Theocracy the Religious Right would like to see, where they could refuse to do business with anyone they choose based on their religion, perceived sin, or choice of/lack of marital status. Or better yet base your employment and promotions on religious belief and behavior. The “Terrorism” is not the killing, but the “in your face” you will do it our way attitude of righteousness and intolerance, that they perpetuate and poison our political system which makes a lot of the rest of our society uncomfotable and reluctant to challange, because it is religion. If they had their way, it would be another form of soft tyranny.

  • Bill

    Religion is farce.

  • Bill

    Are you saying all Jews will go to hell?

  • CatoYounger
  • CatoYounger

    In other words, you hate freedom and want to control everyone.

  • CatoYounger

    Uh, the Crusades were a reaction to the Muslim conquest of the Holy Land. How did Muslim armies take over Spain, get to Tours or the gates of Vienna? Were they invited? I think not. Islam has been at war with the west for 1,500 years. Heck, the US Marines have the phrase “to the shore of Tripoli” because we fought the Barbary Pirates as a young nation. Muslims murdered 80 million Hindus alone during their invasions of India. As recently as 1971, Pakistan murdered 2.1 million (see Lahore settlement). Today, almost every armed conflict in the world has Muslims at the center. Muslim terrorists murder hundreds of people EVERY WEEK (not counting battlefield deaths). http://www.thereligionofpeace.com You are trying to create an equivalence where there isn’t one because you’re weak-minded and have fallen prey to political correctness.

  • Greyguy

    Stop being a victim like everyone else and grow up, there is freedom of religion, you are not in charge and are not ALWAYS RIGHT. Stop inflicting your views on others like you complain others wre doing to you. You are the ones who hate freedom…you are the ones who failed to show up in the last election because you hated Mormons and got Obama reelected[4 to 6 million did not vote vs 2008, patriots that you are]….you are the ones who want to be as IN YOUR FACE as the LGBT CROWD. Grow upand act like a free person and get out of everyones face and mind your own business.

  • ScottMc76

    Deuteronomy is a book of the law. In other words, reading it is essentially the same as reading federal, state or local statutes. Under the Jewish theocracy, judges were given authority to enforce and adjudicate the law, just as law enforcement officers and judges today are given the responsibility and duty to enforce and adjudicate our laws. In other words, this was not an exhortation to the average Joe to go out and kill anyone. It was an explanation of the infractions under the law that were punishable by death, and those tasked with carrying out that capitol punishment were government officials. That’s a completely different scenario than Islam instructing each and every Muslim man, woman and child to go out and commit murder.

    As for 2 Chronicles, this is a history book. It is not instructing anyone to do anything. It is simply “chronicling” the history of the kings of Israel and what actions they took. In this particular passage, Asa was issuing his own edicts. He was not a prophet and therefore was not speaking with authority from God. By your logic, other passages in Chronicles that describe all kinds of debauchery committed by sinful kings would likewise be an endorsement or command of God. Common sense (let alone scholarship and theology) tells us this is not so.

  • ScottMc76

    If your point is that Jewish law (particularly during the Theocratic period before Israel’s first king) had very strict punishments for blaspheming, disrespecting authority, and other direct rebellion against God’s Law, you’ve made your point. But you’ve completely missed the fact that the Old Testament was a book written for Jews to instruct them about following Jewish law. It was not written to instruct Christians how to live under Grace.

    Jesus came to fulfill the Law and pay the penalty for all those sins that under this Law would have been punishable by death. By dying on the cross, Jesus satisfied God’s wrath so that those who believe (Christians) are set free from the penalty of the law and live by grace through faith. There is absolutely nothing in the New Testament that advocates violence or even forceful proselytizing of non-believers. I challenge you to find even one verse that does so.

  • ScottMc76

    You’re right. Refusing to bake a cake for someone and forcing them to choose from among dozens of other conveniently located bakeries is the moral equivalent to rounding up, raping, enslaving and beheading women and children. You got us. Well played.

  • Greyguy

    Do you have any idea how stupid you sound, that really sounds like SOFT TYRANNY. By your comment you have actually made my point for me, in all my years in business the most difficult people I have dealt with were overly religious and for some reason had this notion they were always right and proceeded to imposed their will on others regardless of how correct they were, as long as it turned out in their favor. Not my favorite customer and I rarely did business with them a second time since they were so unethical to deal with.

    As you proved by twisting and purposely misconstruing my words your ethics and tyranny are on display and are in no way interested in having a civil discussion. Your narrow form of politics only shows a lack of interest in others opinions, you are the opposite side of the same coin as Obama.

  • ScottMc76

    You used the word “terrorism” to describe someone holding firmly their deeply held beliefs and (gasp) refusing to willingly do business with someone. The words “terrorist” and “terrorism” have meaning, and that meaning is certainly not making a values-based decision about whether to conduct business. Despite your attempt to morally equivocate true terrorism with what Americans for centuries have regarded as simply the inalienable right to religious freedom, your argument is laughable and absurd… as is your attempt to project yourself as morally superior to Christians.

  • ScottMc76

    Actually, all of us are “in charge” of it. Freedom of religion is an INDIVIDUAL right. If you are truly a conservative, you should know that. It is not an institutionalized right, a collective right, a government-issued right or any other kind of right. It is an inalienable right given by God and preserved by our Bill of Rights. Surely you understand that. Surely as a conservative you get this most fundamental truth that is the basis of all other conservatism. If you surrender the individuality of these rights, then you have surrendered the whole basis of a government of, by and for the people.

  • Greyguy

    Your inalianable rights do not extend to imposing your will on others, that is called tyanny or in some camps a form or “terrorism”. When you run a business you serve those who come through the door, same with the clerk in KY. When you mix the two you are running a church not a business or a government. Even Kosher deli’s do not refuse to serve those of other religions, they merely state what they are, it’s your choice if you want the product. The thought process that you think gives you the option of serving who you want when you want in a business or government position based on your religion is not part of any job description I have ever seen. Everyone has the right to practice their religion away from their job and on their own as long as it is not interfering with others, when it does you have crossed the line and are infringing on others rights. I have seen far too many people drag their religion into a work environment and offend coworkers and business owners offended customers…in most cases they were clueless they were doing it because they felt so stongly they were right in the pursuit of their religion. Unfortunately they were stepping all over other peoples’ preferences and they could care less even when it hurts them. So being self destructive and self absorbed does not strike me as being part of anyone’s religion but rather a character flaw and just plain insensitive to the needs of society.

  • ScottMc76

    You still seem to be missing the point that you equated what is at worst “discrimination” with “terrorism”. Refusing to put your signature on a piece of paper to endorse a practice you believe is against the will of God is not terrorism. In fact, it is patently absurd to even discuss terrorism in the context of this conversation, and yet you, and others, felt it necessary to act as an apologist for the barbaric sub-human islamists who are beheading women and children. You felt it necessary to attempt to equate peaceful “intolerance” of someone’s anti-biblical philosophy with acts of barbarity. And here you are, continuing to defend that decision, which is indefensible.

    The other topic you brought up — that of religious freedom having no place in business — is incongruous with 200+ years of American history. From the founding of this country, religion was part and parcel to nearly every aspect of American life, including not only business but government itself. The examples are too numerous to even attempt to recount. Read the speeches and official records of our past presidents, supreme court justices and congressional members. For the vast majority, their faith and religious convictions were not only welcomed in their daily work, but these convictions were the BASIS on which those decisions were made (a fact that they made quite clear, publicly and without apology). The secularist Progressive movement of the 20th century was the first time our society attempted to twist the meaning of the 1st amendment to mean freedom “from” religion, when the clear intent and wording of the amendment has always been to preserve the freedom “to” practice one’s religion without interference from government.

    Even if I were to concede the point (for sake of argument) that this clerk is somehow imposing her religion on others by refusing to endorse a marriage license, the facts of this case do not support that claim. There were, in fact, 6 deputy clerks who are on record saying they would issue the license. The gay rights movement and its apologists like you are simply trying to force an issue to attempt to win a battle against religious freedom. These couples had every right to go to a different clerk or a different county to get their license. The fact that they chose not to and instead have wasted 3 months trying to win a political battle proves that this has nothing to do with the license itself and everything to do with undermining the traditional religious liberties American’s have enjoyed since this nation’s founding.

  • Greyguy

    Answer this, if Mrs. Davis were of the Islamic faith would you defend her right to not issue the marriage certificate? Or are you only for freedom of religious rights for Christians, and on this subject everyone is on the same page? Because if you start letting everyone put there religious convictions into play in governmental positions and this lady were a Muslum, you just introduced Sharia Law into our system, your logic not mine.

  • Platopus

    Hey Roloff, duffus, this was how they lived back then, the Islamist’s are doing it TODAY! Huge difference.

  • Platopus

    Brushing your spurious figures aside, if we don’t do more against these murder mongers in legal, ethical, war, there will be greater harm done to far greater numbers as civilization slides back into a new dark age. That okay with you?

  • fistdeyuma

    Just for the record there are Christians on Muslim nations, however not many and always under threat. To even leave Islam and believe in another faith is to be condemned to death. No such law exists in a Christian nation. Your idea of defense is to kill anyone not Muslim. Again you use words that have different meanings, one to Muslim and another for everyone else.

    Given that you faith demands you lie to non believers it is only to be expected that you lie to us.

  • Chuck

    I continue to wonder why the murder/terrorist Hasan is still alive. He should have been executed by a military firing squad many years ago. Oh, I forgot, Bathhouse Barry, our Muslime in the W.H., called his killing spree “work place violence.” Thus, not a terrorist act. Wonder if he would use that term if his family was among the victims?

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  • http://seekingalpha.com/article/1514632 lottopol

    Why is it that the founding fathers over
    two hundred years ago knew that religion was nonsense but many otherwise
    intelligent people still believe in it?

    are all alike — founded upon fables and mythologies.” ~ Thomas Jefferson.

    Judeo-Christian religion is the most bloody religion that ever existed.” Adams’
    treaty with Tripoli specified that the American government “is not in any sense
    founded on the Christian religion.” ~ John Adams

    purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores
    the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for
    centuries.” ~ James Madison

    number, the industry, and the morality of the Priesthood and the devotion of
    the people have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the Church
    and the State.” ~ James Madison a.k.a. ‘The Father of the Constitution of
    the United States of America’

    all the systems of religion that were ever invented, nothing is more …
    repugnant to reason … than this thing called Christianity.” ~ Thomas Paine

    Paine noted in “The rights of Man,” “Persecution is not an original feature in
    any religion; but it is always the strongly marked feature of all
    law-religions, or religions established by law.”

    United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of
    clergy.” ~ George Washington

    of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have
    been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch
    towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make half the
    world fools, and the other half hypocrites.”~ Thomas Jefferson

    day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as
    his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the
    generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.” ~ Thomas Jefferson wrote,
    in a letter to John Adams (April 11, 1823)

    Christian god is a three-headed monster, cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one
    wishes to know more of this raging, three-headed beast-like god, one only needs
    to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two
    classes: fools and hypocrites.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

    is from the bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine, and murder, for the
    belief in a cruel god makes a cruel man, and the bible is a history of
    wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind” ~ Thomas
    Paine (1737-1809)

    national institutions of churches whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear
    to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind,
    and monopolize power and profit. … My own mind is my own church.” ~ Thomas
    Paine ‘The Age of Reason’ (1794)

    “If I
    could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to
    render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no
    one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against
    the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
    ~ George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia (1789)

    with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more
    approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.” ~ Thomas
    Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr (1787)

    regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is
    what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practiced, and both by
    precept and example inculcated on mankind.” ~ Samuel Adams, The Rights of the
    Colonists (1771)

    is not an original feature in any religion; but it is always the strongly
    marked feature of all religions established by law. Take away the
    law-establishment, and every religion re-assumes its original benignity.” ~
    Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man (1791)

    has no power to make any religious establishments.” ~ Roger Sherman, Congress

    way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.” ~ Benjamin Franklin,
    Poor Richard’s Almanack (1758)

    contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people
    build a wall of separation between Church & State.” – Thomas
    Jefferson, letter to the Danbury Baptists (1802)

    argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering
    medicine to the dead.” ~ Thomas Paine, The American Crisis No. V (1776)
    (You can read Paine’s whole pamphlet, where he expresses his atheistic beliefs,
    here: http://libertyonline.hypermall

    civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our
    opinions in physics or geometry.” – Thomas Jefferson, A Bill for Establishing
    Religious Freedom (1779)

    establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate
    the execution of mischievous projects.” – James Madison, letter to William
    Bradford, Jr. (1774)

    is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science
    and literature. Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public
    happiness.” – George Washington, address to Congress (1790)

    almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on
    trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and
    indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both,
    superstition, bigotry and persecution.” – James Madison, General Assembly
    of the Commonwealth of Virginia (1785)

    The entire incidence of a corporate income tax falls on the owners of

  • ScottMc76

    You completely missed the point of 99% of these quotes. You are reading your bias into each of these when the Founders themselves made it very clear what their view of religion was. They did not, as you suggest, see religion as nonsense. By and large, they were all very religious men. What they were arguing is that proclaiming an “official” religion breeds corruption — either through the clergy manipulating the people’s representatives (thereby disenfranchising the people) or through the government’s direct imposition of restrictions on religious liberty. It’s interesting to note that, despite their view that clergy may at times exercise too much control over government, they did not deem this threat to be the priority. Instead, they chose to codify and protect the right of the individual to exercise religious freedom. The entire constitution was intended to carry out a clearly defined purpose — to define and constrain the power of government in order to preserve individual liberty. Only those enumerated powers are granted to the federal government. All else is left to the states or to the people. Federal regulation of religion is a direct violation of the bill of rights.

  • freebirds

    Christianity did not take effect until the new testament because Christ was not introduced until the new testament. Hence ” Christ” Ian’s. Meaning after Christ was placed on this earth. Christianity follows the teachings of Christ. Not the scripture you put on your post. Christ was not here in person to enable Christianity during the books you mentioned. So you need to find the bible books that are at the time of Christ or written after Christ. Try starting with the New testament. Mathew and work your way to the end. New testament is Christian, old testament is before Christ. Christianity follows the teachings of Christ. I beseech you to find scripture asking man to kill from scripture that Christians follow. New testament on. Christ is about new and freedom. He is the new rule book. The rules before him are trumped and he is what Christians follow.

  • freebirds

    Written for Jews not Christian.

  • freebirds

    That is a metaphor. He was saying that there will be dissension between family, neighbors, friends, etc for following Christ. And to this day there is. So much so that Muslims want to kill Christians, and many try to discredit Christians. We as Christians are promised that there will be conflict because Satan will attack us. He hates the true religion that is a threat to him. So anybody against Christianity is aligned with Satan. So basically Christ is saying that there will be blood shed over him and he is correct. We as Christians are promised that we will be under fire for following Christ. For giving the shirt off our backs to help our neighbor, loving the people but hating evil, these are threats to Satan and we will be attacked for

  • freebirds

    The crusaders were not necessarily Christian. I can put a fox coat on me but it doesn’t make me a fox, but a lot of women might say otherwise. Lok